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Cron
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      09-20-2008, 11:22 AM
Hi there,
I've recently discovered the power of MIDI and I'm loving every minute
of playing my new M-Audio keyboard. The problem is I'm pretty bad at
the keyboard so I was wondering what's the latest and greatest way to
use a guitar as a MIDI controller? All the results from my google
searches seem to be 5 years old.

I'm looking for any advice. Does MIDI guitar even work at all? How
reliable is it? How sensitive is it to touch? Do I need to get a load
of new hardware or is there good software convertors available?

Thanks a lot,
Ciarán
 
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Norbert Stellberg
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      09-22-2008, 03:38 PM
Hello,

>I've recently discovered the power of MIDI and I'm loving every minute
>of playing my new M-Audio keyboard. The problem is I'm pretty bad at
>the keyboard so I was wondering what's the latest and greatest way to
>use a guitar as a MIDI controller? All the results from my google
>searches seem to be 5 years old.
>I'm looking for any advice. Does MIDI guitar even work at all? How
>reliable is it? How sensitive is it to touch? Do I need to get a load
>of new hardware or is there good software convertors available?


Great stuff for you keyboard is Live-Styler.
Have a look:
www.live-styler.us

with best regards
Norbert
 
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Sylvain Robitaille
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      09-22-2008, 11:01 PM
Cron wrote:

> ... I'm pretty bad at the keyboard so I was wondering what's the
> latest and greatest way to use a guitar as a MIDI controller? All the
> results from my google searches seem to be 5 years old.


I have no idea about "latest and greatest", and the stuff I'm using is
significantly older than 5 years, but it can be obtained relatively easily
(search on Ebay, for example), and works quite well if setup properly.

> I'm looking for any advice. Does MIDI guitar even work at all?


Yes, though with limitations. I'm not skilled enough to try any
Yngwie-style sweeped arpeggios, but I wouldn't expect flawless tracking
that that speed, unless said Yngwie-style sweeped arpeggios were
themselves flawless and expertly executed so that each note on every
string was exactly consistent in attack, duration, etc.

> How reliable is it?


In the sense of, "does it work every time I turn it on?" or in the sense
of "does it ever miss any notes?" For the former, it's completely
reliable. For the latter, if you keep your picking consistent, and your
guitar/pickup/converter is properly setup, it normally won't miss any
notes.

> How sensitive is it to touch?


It depends on the individual setup. Mostly, though, you need to pick
notes. At least with the setup I use, tapping is a bit hit-and-miss.
Slides, hammers, pull-offs all work if there is a generous amount of
picking included.

> Do I need to get a load of new hardware or is there good software
> convertors available?


I know nothing about software converters. The setup I use is based around
a Roland GR-09 for MIDI conversion, and most of the sound generation
(I occasionally send MIDI from the GR-09 to another synth instead), with
a Roland GK-2 hexaphonic pickup to trigger the GR-09. You need to set
the height of the pickup just right, and the MIDI converter (in my case
the GR-09) will include a sensitivity setting, adjustable per-string.
At extremes you can get it to trigger on very light touches, but that's
prone to false-triggering.

I hope I've helped ...

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      09-24-2008, 11:06 AM
On Sep 23, 12:01*am, Sylvain Robitaille <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:
> Cron wrote:
> > ... I'm pretty bad at the keyboard so I was wondering what's the
> > latest and greatest way to use a guitar as a MIDI controller? All the
> > results from my google searches seem to be 5 years old.

>
> I have no idea about "latest and greatest", and the stuff I'm using is
> significantly older than 5 years, but it can be obtained relatively easily
> (search on Ebay, for example), and works quite well if setup properly.
>
> > I'm looking for any advice. Does MIDI guitar even work at all?

>
> Yes, though with limitations. *I'm not skilled enough to try any
> Yngwie-style sweeped arpeggios, but I wouldn't expect flawless tracking
> that that speed, unless said Yngwie-style sweeped arpeggios were
> themselves flawless and expertly executed so that each note on every
> string was exactly consistent in attack, duration, etc.
>
> > How reliable is it?

>
> In the sense of, "does it work every time I turn it on?" or in the sense
> of "does it ever miss any notes?" *For the former, it's completely
> reliable. *For the latter, if you keep your picking consistent, and your
> guitar/pickup/converter is properly setup, it normally won't miss any
> notes.
>
> > How sensitive is it to touch?

>
> It depends on the individual setup. *Mostly, though, you need to pick
> notes. *At least with the setup I use, tapping is a bit hit-and-miss.
> Slides, hammers, pull-offs all work if there is a generous amount of
> picking included.
>
> > Do I need to get a load of new hardware or is there good software
> > convertors available?

>
> I know nothing about software converters. *The setup I use is based around
> a Roland GR-09 for MIDI conversion, and most of the sound generation
> (I occasionally send MIDI from the GR-09 to another synth instead), with
> a Roland GK-2 hexaphonic pickup to trigger the GR-09. *You need to set
> the height of the pickup just right, and the MIDI converter (in my case
> the GR-09) will include a sensitivity setting, adjustable per-string.
> At extremes you can get it to trigger on very light touches, but that's
> prone to false-triggering.
>
> I hope I've helped ...
>


Hey thanks a lot for the info Sylvain - That's answered most of my
questions. I appreciate the help.

I'd still be interested to know what's the best MIDI guitar system
around today for a low price tag and if there might be a software
alternative to the GR-09. If anyone has any info on this, please post
away!
 
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PaulBKaraoke
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      10-01-2008, 08:40 AM
find a casio midi guitar. they are really good.
i have played midi guitar for years, i have a gr09, had the roland gr300
and gr700 in the day.
the casio is the best.
 
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      10-02-2008, 10:49 AM
Hello,

have a look at Exon (or EXXON)
Please google at this. This was a product of WERSI.
But it was sell.
with best regards
Norbert
 
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