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polymod
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      03-09-2010, 03:29 PM

"Scott Dorsey" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Danny T <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >I'm sure that there was someone screaming when the first rhodes came
> >out and the sound was coming from bars and not strings. I bet he was
> >there hollering, learn to play a real piano - there is no use for one
> >of those :-)

>
> It was me, and I had a point.
>
> The Rhodes sure is a lot easier to take on tour than a Steinway, though.
> --scott


But the Steinway's a heck of a lot easier to tune<G>

Poly


 
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      03-09-2010, 03:58 PM
On Mar 9, 10:29*am, "polymod" <poly...@optonline.net> wrote:
> "Scott Dorsey" <klu...@panix.com> wrote in message
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> > Danny T *<dannytad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >I'm sure that there was someone screaming when the first rhodes came
> > >out and the sound was coming from bars and not strings. I bet he was
> > >there hollering, learn to play a real piano - there is no use for one
> > >of those :-)

>
> > It was me, and I had a point.

>
> > The Rhodes sure is a lot easier to take on tour than a Steinway, though..
> > --scott

>
> But the Steinway's a heck of a lot easier to tune<G>
>
> Poly


Really? I thought my rhodes was the easiest thing in the world to tune!
 
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      03-09-2010, 06:20 PM

"Danny T" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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On Mar 9, 10:29 am, "polymod" <poly...@optonline.net> wrote:
> "Scott Dorsey" <klu...@panix.com> wrote in message
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> news:hn47hq$t45$(E-Mail Removed)...
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> > Danny T <dannytad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >I'm sure that there was someone screaming when the first rhodes came
> > >out and the sound was coming from bars and not strings. I bet he was
> > >there hollering, learn to play a real piano - there is no use for one
> > >of those :-)

>
> > It was me, and I had a point.

>
> > The Rhodes sure is a lot easier to take on tour than a Steinway, though.
> > --scott

>
> But the Steinway's a heck of a lot easier to tune<G>
>
> Poly
>Really? I thought my rhodes was the easiest thing in the world to tune!


True, most of the time you only have to tweak a few notes that have slipped
out.
Unless you had roadies that handled it like I did. I've done a complete
tuning on quite a few ones in my lifetime.
I've been a tuner for well over 30 years. I'll tune 10 pianos before tuning
a Rhodes. Currently, mine has been designated for studio use only...keeps in
tune that way<g>

Poly


 
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      03-09-2010, 06:54 PM
On Mar 9, 1:20*pm, "polymod" <poly...@optonline.net> wrote:
> "Danny T" <dannytad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:26483233-aa39-43ca-85f0-(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Mar 9, 10:29 am, "polymod" <poly...@optonline.net> wrote:
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> > "Scott Dorsey" <klu...@panix.com> wrote in message

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> > > Danny T <dannytad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >I'm sure that there was someone screaming when the first rhodes came
> > > >out and the sound was coming from bars and not strings. I bet he was
> > > >there hollering, learn to play a real piano - there is no use for one
> > > >of those :-)

>
> > > It was me, and I had a point.

>
> > > The Rhodes sure is a lot easier to take on tour than a Steinway, though.
> > > --scott

>
> > But the Steinway's a heck of a lot easier to tune<G>

>
> > Poly
> >Really? I thought my rhodes was the easiest thing in the world to tune!

>
> True, most of the time you only have to tweak a few notes that have slipped
> out.
> Unless you had roadies that handled it like I did. I've done a complete
> tuning on quite a few ones in my lifetime.
> I've been a tuner for well over 30 years. I'll tune 10 pianos before tuning
> a Rhodes. Currently, mine has been designated for studio use only...keepsin
> tune that way<g>
>
> Poly


I was 14 to 16 when I was toting my rhodes. I wasn't big enough to
abuse it. It abused me. I use to knock it out every now and again but
sliding a spring, to me, is a lot easier then matching tone on a
hundreds of strings. I tune my piano and as of late, tune 2 of them at
my church since the budget has been squashed. I'd love to put a nice
old electric in there!
 
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      03-11-2010, 03:20 PM
> Learn to play in all the keys you need. There are a lot of good low
> notes down
> there going to waste when you put a capo on.


That might be ok for your average chord strummer, but
try playing a difficult classical piece in some other
key then the one in which it was written. I play
Renaissance lute music and use a capo to bring the
key up to approximate how the music was heard. There
is no way that I'm going to attempt to play in the
proper key without the capo.
 
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      03-11-2010, 03:53 PM
Tobiah wrote:

> That might be ok for your average chord strummer, but
> try playing a difficult classical piece in some other
> key then the one in which it was written.


I didn't think you were supposed to play classical music in a
key other than the one in which it was written. That's part of
the sound. Of course you're free to interpret it any way you want.

> I play
> Renaissance lute music and use a capo to bring the
> key up to approximate how the music was heard.


I know capos are pretty common for lute players, though
I figured that it was a popular "serenading" instrument at
one time, and like folksingers, not everyone is trained to
sing in "the right" key.

> There
> is no way that I'm going to attempt to play in the
> proper key without the capo.


Maybe you need a shorter lute. <g>


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      03-11-2010, 07:31 PM
On Mar 11, 10:53*am, Mike Rivers <mriv...@d-and-d.com> wrote:
> Tobiah wrote:
> > That might be ok for your average chord strummer, but
> > try playing a difficult classical piece in some other
> > key then the one in which it was written. *

>
> I didn't think you were supposed to play classical music in a
> key other than the one in which it was written. That's part of
> the sound. Of course you're free to interpret it any way you want.

,,,,,snip

One could always argue that a guitar should not be solid and implanted
with magnets to make it loud, obnoxious and buzzy either but I sure
like 'em that way.......
 
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      03-11-2010, 07:46 PM
Danny T wrote:

> One could always argue that a guitar should not be solid and implanted
> with magnets to make it loud, obnoxious and buzzy either but I sure
> like 'em that way.......


I've always called that an electric guitar. Just like I call a piano a
piano and an
organ an organ. You play them both the same way (sort of) but the sound is
produced by a different mechanism.

There are lots of things wrong, but almost right, with "Pedal steel
guitar," too.



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      03-11-2010, 09:32 PM
On Mar 11, 2:46*pm, Mike Rivers <mriv...@d-and-d.com> wrote:
> Danny T wrote:
> > One could always argue that a guitar should not be solid and implanted
> > with magnets to make it loud, obnoxious and buzzy either but I sure
> > like 'em that way.......

>
> I've always called that an electric guitar. Just like I call a piano a
> piano and an
> organ an organ. You play them both the same way (sort of) but the sound is
> produced by a different mechanism.
>
> There are lots of things wrong, but almost right, with "Pedal steel
> guitar," too.
>
> --
> "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without
> a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be
> operated without a passing knowledge of audio." - John Watkinson


The only thing wrong with pedal steel is the player. I owned one and
never could, for the life of me, make the thing work. I'm fully
convinced that there is a disorder, something like autistic savant,
that is a prerequisite for playing that beast.....
 
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      03-12-2010, 12:05 AM
Danny T wrote:

> The only thing wrong with pedal steel is the player. I owned one and
> never could, for the life of me, make the thing work. I'm fully
> convinced that there is a disorder, something like autistic savant,
> that is a prerequisite for playing that beast.....


I've always thought of the fiddle the same way. I made a little progress
on the
pedal steel but I haven't had it out of its case in about 10 years. I'll
have to figure
out how to put it together. It's really closer to a harp than a guitar,
and in fact
Gibson made one they called the Electroharp. I'm convinced that if the
pedal steel
had been invented in Turloch O'carolan's time (an itinerant Irish harper
who was
the source of a large amount of the contemporary Irish folk instrumental
music). he
would have played one. If he could have found a place to plug in the
amplifier.

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