Don P. wrote:
>> I wanna live where you live. But first, how much snow do you get? ')

> How much do you want? I think we got about 3 feet this winter, all told
> (Not all at once, though). About 25 miles west of Chicago.

I think we kept up with you this year, and that's too much. Like the man
with
the oar, I think I'll start walking with a snow shovel over my shoulder
and when
someone asks me what I'm carrying, that's where I'll settle.


--
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a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be
operated without a passing knowledge of audio." - John Watkinson

In article
<18f528b2-ccf4-4041-abab-(E-Mail Removed)>,
Danny T <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> The definition of music is:
> 1 the art or science of combining vocal or instrumental sounds (or
> both) to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion

I think that this is a terrible definition of music. What is beauty? A
great many people in Mozart's day would have thought that Beethoven's dm
Symphony to be quite ugly. Rite of Spring? A Day in the Life?
Stockhausen?

On Mar 8, 11:36*am, Danny T <dannytad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The definition of music is:
> 1 the art or science of combining vocal or instrumental sounds (or
> both) to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion

If that's the best "definition" you can come up with, then
your argument is already in deep ****. First of all, it's not
limited to "vocal and instrumental" sounds, it can include
any sound. And you forgot silence, that's not a sound but
it's an important component of a great deal of music.

Then there's that claptrap about beauty. There's more to
music than beauty. In fact, music can be ugly. And rightly
so. Without ugly, beauty is pretty useless. Elevator music
comes to mind.

> Since there is usually just a rhythm and a few words spit out in angry
> voice, cRap can not be considered music.

More utter bullshit. Music can be rhythm. Just rhythm.
There is no requirement that music contain melody or
harmony. Besides, most rap contains melody, for instance,
in the bass line, or in the melodic sequence of percussion
sounds (even if they don't have harmonic tone with an
identifiable fundamental pitch). Not that it has to have
melody, but it often does.

As for a "few words", rap usually has a lot of words.
Carefully chosen words. Somtimes angry (by the way,
that's an "emotion"), sometimes not.

And it doesn't have to express emotion. Some music
is emotional. Some is cold and clinically geometric.
There are all kinds of music.

"I don't like rap." is a statment of opinion. "Rap can
not be considered music" is a demontration of your
bone-headed ignorance. Personally, I don't really like
much of the rap music that I've heard. Although I do
like some, my opinion has no bearing on whether it's
music.

> Just thought I'd open my mouth before I shoot the bastard that was
> parked outside my studio with 110dB blasting kill the cop while I
> tried to track my acoustic this morning.....

Well, based on your pontification, whatever you were
trying to track probably wasn't worth the disc space.
You should probably bust a cap in your acoustic,
and spare the world your narrow minded stupidity.

Assholes pumping boom boom are a real pain in
the ass, but I'd rather have someone thumping
outside my front door than to listen to you prove
what a dick you are.

On Mar 8, 5:39*pm, John O'Flaherty <quias...@yeeha.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:12:34 -0800, Gary Edstrom
>
>
>
>
>
> <GEdst...@PacBell.Net> wrote:
> >On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:36:01 -0800 (PST), Danny T <dannytad...@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
>
> >>The definition of music is:
> >>1 the art or science of combining vocal or instrumental sounds (or
> >>both) to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion
>
> >>Since there is usually just a rhythm and a few words spit out in angry
> >>voice, cRap can not be considered music.
>
> >>Just thought I'd open my mouth before I shoot the bastard that was
> >>parked outside my studio with 110dB blasting kill the cop while I
> >>tried to track my acoustic this morning.....
>
> >A couple of years ago, I was driving along the Ventura freeway going
> >along at the speed limit with many cars around. *All of a sudden, I
> >could feel the car vibrating and hear a BOOM, BOOM, BOOM. *I looked
> >around for another car with their stereo cranked up. *I didn't see any..
> >Then, I found out that it was a vehicle 3 cars behind me! *Three cars
> >behind me, going along at freeway speeds with all of the normal vehicle
> >noises, it was still rattling my car!
>
> >Was he deaf???????
>
> Maybe not yet ...
>
> --
> John

John, are you related to Danny O'Flaherty - http://www.dannyoflaherty.com
?

On Mar 8, 7:34*pm, F orf <f...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> On Mar 8, 11:36*am, Danny T <dannytad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The definition of music is:
> > 1 the art or science of combining vocal or instrumental sounds (or
> > both) to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion
>
> If that's the best "definition" you can come up with, then
> your argument is already in deep ****.
SNIP............
Sorry, that is right out of the dictionary - cut and paste

On Mar 8, 7:40*pm, Danny T <dannytad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 8, 7:34*pm, F orf <f...@mailinator.com> wrote:> On Mar 8, 11:36*am, Danny T <dannytad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > The definition of music is:
> > > 1 the art or science of combining vocal or instrumental sounds (or
> > > both) to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion
>
> > If that's the best "definition" you can come up with, then
> > your argument is already in deep ****.
>
> SNIP............
> Sorry, that is right out of the dictionary - cut and paste

PS-
BOZO

On Mar 8, 6:19*pm, Jenn <jennconductsREMOVET...@mac.com> wrote:
> In article
> <18f528b2-ccf4-4041-abab-0160bbdca...@g19g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
> *Danny T <dannytad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The definition of music is:
> > 1 the art or science of combining vocal or instrumental sounds (or
> > both) to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion
>
> I think that this is a terrible definition of music. *What is beauty? *A
> great many people in Mozart's day would have thought that Beethoven's dm
> Symphony to be quite ugly. *Rite of Spring? *A Day in the Life? *
> Stockhausen?

Jenn, you better write your own dictionary because that is where I cut
and pasted it from.

On Mar 8, 8:40*pm, Danny T <dannytad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 8, 7:34*pm, F orf <f...@mailinator.com> wrote:> On Mar 8, 11:36*am, Danny T <dannytad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > The definition of music is:
> > > 1 the art or science of combining vocal or instrumental sounds (or
> > > both) to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion
>
> > If that's the best "definition" you can come up with, then
> > your argument is already in deep ****.
>
> SNIP............
> Sorry, that is right out of the dictionary - cut and paste

What "dictionary"? Some online wiki that any idiot can
post to? Yeah, I though so. And obviously, any idiot can
(and did) cute and past from, it too.

Danny T <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On Mar 8, 3:45 pm, walki...@nv.net (hank alrich) wrote:
> > Danny T <dannytad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Mar 8, 1:31 pm, walki...@nv.net (hank alrich) wrote:
> > > > Danny T <dannytad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > The definition of music is:
> > > > > 1 the art or science of combining vocal or instrumental sounds (or
> > > > > both) to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion
> >
> > > > > Since there is usually just a rhythm and a few words spit out in angry
> > > > > voice, cRap can not be considered music.
> >
> > > > Bullshit. Form and content are not to be confused involuntarily. Drums
> > > > are loaded with harmonics. If you've never heard melody from a trap set,
> > > > then you must never have heard Eddie Blackwell live.
> > > You're confusing trap set with rap ****
> >
> > No, I am not. I'm distinguishing between narrowminded bullshit and
> > useful knowledge about music. Ain't no melody in Woody Guthrie's talking
> > blues. You're standing on a line across which lies racism. I've heard a
> > couple of rap songs I liked - from Arrested Development, IRRC. Doesn't
> > mean I dig it as a genre, but there is plenty of other popular music
> > that I generally dislike, too.

> Well, if I were you I'd erase your post before people realize you
> don't know what melody is. First of all, there is melody and harmony
> all through the picked chord changes and second there is melody in his
> spoken word. He uses a speaking voice and follows melody all the way
> through.

Buy my CD, Danny, and figure out what I know about melody. That you
can't find it in drums speaks volumes about a certain of ignorance, that
is then invoked as if it were fact, to support an even more ignorant
premise.

> Now, not everyone knows definitions of things like a neapolitan 6
> chord but most people know what melody is.

Show me something you've written. I've read a lot about your stuff, from
you, but not seen you step up and deliver in public.

--
ha
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Danny T <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On Mar 8, 4:15 pm, Les Cargill <lcargil...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Danny T wrote:
> > > The definition of music is:
> > > 1 the art or science of combining vocal or instrumental sounds (or
> > > both) to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion
> >
> > > Since there is usually just a rhythm and a few words spit out in angry
> > > voice, cRap can not be considered music.
> >
> > Byron Hurt has done a very interesting documentary about what's
> > happened with hip hop.
> >
> > http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/hiphop/film.htm
> >
> > If you can keep your mind open long enough to watch it, it's
> > pretty good. It also has enough content in it to teach
> > us who don't really know much about hip hop that it used
> > to be a lot less monoculture than it is now.
> >
> > > Just thought I'd open my mouth before I shoot the bastard that was
> > > parked outside my studio with 110dB blasting kill the cop while I
> > > tried to track my acoustic this morning.....
> >
> > --
> > Les Cargill
>
> There is a study that shows point blank that it lowers IQ levels...
> not kidding.
>
> Do some songs contain rap - yes. Is rap music - not to me

There are studies that show television does the same.

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