In article <1113057938.bea8765cb12856bec1b3e020cea14196@teran ews>,
(E-Mail Removed) wrote:

> Anyway, I was bolstered to learn that one of the few bands I respect
> these days, Wilco, is in favor of the seemingly out-of-favor-around-here
> concept that copyright laws, particularly those covering internet
> downloads, are too restrictive. Perhaps being concerned with the
> quality of music runs in opposition to the concern of making money at
> music.
>
> Cheers,
> Trevor de Clercq

Record companies sell plastic discs. They don't care what's on them as
long as they can sell alot. If the quality of the music was the concern
you would pay more for "better" quality music, no?

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> There is no way to stop peer to peer no matter what the courts rule.
Is
> it illegal for me to use BitTorrent to download Linux? What if I
want
> to download a concert? Who's going to be able to easily track me
down
> in a peer to peer set up? It just takes to much effort to enforce a
ban
> so the practical thing is to allow it. Just as it has always been
> decided in the past with new recording technology.

Oh COME ON! Use your head. What is legal and what is illegal
should be decided based on how easy it is to do? Dude, plenty of
very horrific crimes are extremely easy to do, no? Should we legalize
driving drunk? Murder?

Sheesh.

Will Miho
NY Music & TV Audio Guy
Staff Audio/Fox News/M-AES
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:44:05 GMT, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>On 4/9/2005 11:03 AM, jackfish wrote:
>> In article <1113057938.bea8765cb12856bec1b3e020cea14196@teran ews>,
>> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Anyway, I was bolstered to learn that one of the few bands I respect
>>>these days, Wilco, is in favor of the seemingly out-of-favor-around-here
>>>concept that copyright laws, particularly those covering internet
>>>downloads, are too restrictive. Perhaps being concerned with the
>>>quality of music runs in opposition to the concern of making money at
>>>music.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Trevor de Clercq
>>
>>
>> Record companies sell plastic discs. They don't care what's on them as
>> long as they can sell alot. If the quality of the music was the concern
>> you would pay more for "better" quality music, no?
>
>There is no way to stop peer to peer no matter what the courts rule. Is
>it illegal for me to use BitTorrent to download Linux? What if I want
>to download a concert? Who's going to be able to easily track me down
>in a peer to peer set up? It just takes to much effort to enforce a ban
>so the practical thing is to allow it. Just as it has always been
>decided in the past with new recording technology.

Actaully it's a whole lot easier for them to track down people using
bit torrent software than people who are using stuff like Kazaa,
Limewire, etc.

Al

On 9 Apr 2005 19:14:37 -0700, "WillStG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>> There is no way to stop peer to peer no matter what the courts rule.
>Is
>> it illegal for me to use BitTorrent to download Linux? What if I
>want
>> to download a concert? Who's going to be able to easily track me
>down
>> in a peer to peer set up? It just takes to much effort to enforce a
>ban
>> so the practical thing is to allow it. Just as it has always been
>> decided in the past with new recording technology.
>
> Oh COME ON! Use your head. What is legal and what is illegal
>should be decided based on how easy it is to do? Dude, plenty of
>very horrific crimes are extremely easy to do, no? Should we legalize
>driving drunk? Murder?

Or "pre-emptive war"?


> Sheesh.

Indeed..

"WillStG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) oups.com...
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>> There is no way to stop peer to peer no matter what the courts rule.
> Is
>> it illegal for me to use BitTorrent to download Linux? What if I
> want
>> to download a concert? Who's going to be able to easily track me
> down
>> in a peer to peer set up? It just takes to much effort to enforce a
> ban
>> so the practical thing is to allow it. Just as it has always been
>> decided in the past with new recording technology.
>
> Oh COME ON! Use your head. What is legal and what is illegal
> should be decided based on how easy it is to do? Dude, plenty of
> very horrific crimes are extremely easy to do, no? Should we legalize
> driving drunk? Murder?
>
> Sheesh.

It is easy to brainwash a toddler to believe in God too... sheesh. Maybe
we need to make that illegal.


-h to the e to the v

"playon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:44:05 GMT, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>
>>On 4/9/2005 11:03 AM, jackfish wrote:
>>> In article <1113057938.bea8765cb12856bec1b3e020cea14196@teran ews>,
>>> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Anyway, I was bolstered to learn that one of the few bands I respect
>>>>these days, Wilco, is in favor of the seemingly out-of-favor-around-here
>>>>concept that copyright laws, particularly those covering internet
>>>>downloads, are too restrictive. Perhaps being concerned with the
>>>>quality of music runs in opposition to the concern of making money at
>>>>music.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Trevor de Clercq
>>>
>>>
>>> Record companies sell plastic discs. They don't care what's on them as
>>> long as they can sell alot. If the quality of the music was the concern
>>> you would pay more for "better" quality music, no?
>>
>>There is no way to stop peer to peer no matter what the courts rule. Is
>>it illegal for me to use BitTorrent to download Linux? What if I want
>>to download a concert? Who's going to be able to easily track me down
>>in a peer to peer set up? It just takes to much effort to enforce a ban
>>so the practical thing is to allow it. Just as it has always been
>>decided in the past with new recording technology.
>
> Actaully it's a whole lot easier for them to track down people using
> bit torrent software than people who are using stuff like Kazaa,
> Limewire, etc.

Right, because with torrent technology there is a source location that can
be taken offline. But all you have to do is not make that link public
info...

-hev