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Danny T
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      02-24-2010, 07:21 PM
I've been removed from the big studios for a while. Is recording being
adversely affected from this economy too? I know that my friends in
high places are complaining about throwing away good money on
recordings that are only downloaded as mp3's so I'm thinking they
might be using that as an excuse to chop budgets.

True? False? Maybe??
 
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Scott Dorsey
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      02-24-2010, 08:18 PM
Danny T <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>I've been removed from the big studios for a while. Is recording being
>adversely affected from this economy too? I know that my friends in
>high places are complaining about throwing away good money on
>recordings that are only downloaded as mp3's so I'm thinking they
>might be using that as an excuse to chop budgets.
>
>True? False? Maybe??


It's dead. I haven't had a classical gig in months. Rock clubs call...
about the only thing that isn't in the toilet around here is film work.
--scott

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Mike Rivers
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      02-24-2010, 08:37 PM
Danny T wrote:
> I've been removed from the big studios for a while. Is recording being
> adversely affected from this economy too?


Big studios have been affected by the economy. There hardly are any any
more that would be the kind that a musician or a band would go to. Most of
the studios that take outside clients are smaller project studios. The
big studios
still exist for projects that require a lot of space (orchestras doing
film scores,
large jazz bands, and such) and that need staging for video work, or fast
turn-around for jingles, though much of those are done at private studios
now - you can't tell an orchestra made from samples from the real thing when
you hear it from a TV set.

> I know that my friends in
> high places are complaining about throwing away good money on
> recordings that are only downloaded as mp3's so I'm thinking they
> might be using that as an excuse to chop budgets.


A good recording makes a better MP3, but since so much of today's music
is really disposable, or rather, hardly worth keeping around for 50 years or
more, people are willing to accept the slightly reduced quality of a "home"
recording for the huge cost saving. Those who can do it efficiently really
win, those who continue to fumble and wonder "what's the best mic for
$200?" have a great hobby that might pay for itself one day.




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Danny T
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      02-25-2010, 01:28 AM
On Feb 24, 2:37*pm, Mike Rivers <mriv...@d-and-d.com> wrote:
> Danny T wrote:
> > I've been removed from the big studios for a while. Is recording being
> > adversely affected from this economy too?

>
> Big studios have been affected by the economy. There hardly are any any
> more that would be the kind that a musician or a band would go to. Most of
> the studios that take outside clients are smaller project studios. The
> big studios
> still exist for projects that require a lot of space (orchestras doing
> film scores,
> large jazz bands, and such) and that need staging for video work, or fast
> turn-around for jingles, though much of those are done at private studios
> now - you can't tell an orchestra made from samples from the real thing when
> you hear it from a TV set.
>
> *> I know that my friends in
>
> > high places are complaining about throwing away good money on
> > recordings that are only downloaded as mp3's so I'm thinking they
> > might be using that as an excuse to chop budgets.

>
> A good recording makes a better MP3, but since so much of today's music
> is really disposable, or rather, hardly worth keeping around for 50 yearsor
> more, people are willing to accept the slightly reduced quality of a "home"
> recording for the huge cost saving. Those who can do it efficiently really
> win, those who continue to fumble and wonder "what's the best mic for
> $200?" have a great hobby that might pay for itself one day.
>
> --
> "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without
> a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be
> operated without a passing knowledge of audio." - John Watkinson


I was toying with making a studio investment but it really would be a
lame way to go. Austin has a lot of bands and someone there might be
able to make a living but I believe you that it is a done deal. Maybe
it will be a good season to buy up all those good toys soon. I feel
bad for the guy that bought them all a few years ago.
 
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Mike Rivers
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      02-25-2010, 03:35 AM
Danny T wrote:

> I was toying with making a studio investment but it really would be a
> lame way to go. Austin has a lot of bands and someone there might be
> able to make a living but I believe you that it is a done deal.


You woudn't get rich (you might get poor) but I think that in Austin, a
funky
but good low budget studio might be able to make the grade. You'd need to
find a space that's really cheap. You can't run a studio when it takes a
month's
worth of bookings to pay the rent. If you could do a CD for $1,000,
crank out
four or five a month plus a few 2-3 song performance or songwriter demos,
and rent a building for $1,500/month you could do OK.

Any chance of that?

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0junk4me@bellsouth.net
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      02-25-2010, 04:09 AM

On 2010-02-24 (E-Mail Removed) said:
>I was toying with making a studio investment but it really would be
>a lame way to go. Austin has a lot of bands and someone there might
>be able to make a living but I believe you that it is a done deal.
>Maybe it will be a good season to buy up all those good toys soon.
>I feel bad for the guy that bought them all a few years ago.


Yah, I was looking at doing the raw space customization
thing down in NEw ORleans before Katrina hit, renting with
option to buy on the edge of Slidell with intentions of
building studio building on part of it as well.

Glad I"m just doing the remote truck thing now. I can still
provide the client with the desire for quality that quality,
let him, if nothing else rent the hall, or do his
performance for capture in a good sounding location.
To have the expense of equipment and the overhead of
building with all that attendant mess would not be something
I"d want in this economy. ME I've got maintenance on the
rig, license and insurance, but if it sits in the driveway
it doesn't eat near what a building would in utilities costs
and the other attendant expenses.

I get tire kickers still, but that's mainly what they seem
to do is kick tires <g>>




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      02-25-2010, 05:29 AM
You might be able to set up a studio for an ultra-niche. For example,
buy and clean up two old mono Ampex tape recorders and an old rotary-
dial radio board (or build your own board, from tubes and Triad
transformers). Put an Altec 604 in the control room, build the studio
with linoleum tile floor and pegboard sound absorbers. Put in some E-V
664s and maybe an RCA ribbon. Do it in a cheap location. Slogan? How
about, "Pro-Tools? PRO-TOOLS?? S--t, we don't even give you stereo."

I bet you could rent it to punk-rockers til the cows come home.

Peace,
Paul
 
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Danny T
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      02-25-2010, 06:25 AM
On Feb 24, 10:09*pm, 0junk...@bellsouth.net wrote:
> On 2010-02-24 dannytad...@gmail.com said:
> * *>I was toying with making a studio investment but it really would be
> * *>a lame way to go. Austin has a lot of bands and someone there might
> * *>be able to make a living but I believe you that it is a done deal..
> * *>Maybe it will be a good season to buy up all those good toys soon..
> * *>I feel bad for the guy that *bought them all a few years ago.
>
> Yah, I was looking at doing the raw space customization
> thing down in NEw ORleans before Katrina hit, renting with
> option to buy on the edge of Slidell with intentions of
> building studio building on part of it as well.
>
> Glad I"m just doing the remote truck thing now. *I can still
> provide the client with the desire for quality that quality,
> let him, if nothing else rent the hall, or do his
> performance for capture in a good sounding location.
> To have the expense of equipment and the overhead of
> building with all that attendant mess would not be something
> I"d want in this economy. *ME I've got maintenance on the
> rig, license and insurance, but if it sits in the driveway
> it doesn't eat near what a building would in utilities costs
> and the other attendant expenses.
>
> I get tire kickers still, but that's mainly what they seem
> to do is kick tires <g>>
>
> Richard webb,
> replace anything before at with elspider


I ws heading toNO to then at the last minute got lazy and decided to
go sailing instead. Thank GOD I did that instead. Katrina wiped the
place I was going to build out. I got really lucky dodging that bullet.
 
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Adrian Tuddenham
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      02-25-2010, 10:11 AM
Danny T <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I've been removed from the big studios for a while. Is recording being
> adversely affected from this economy too? I know that my friends in
> high places are complaining about throwing away good money on
> recordings that are only downloaded as mp3's so I'm thinking they
> might be using that as an excuse to chop budgets.
>
> True? False? Maybe??


CDs have fallen in price to a negative value - if you give them away,
the recipient can't be bothered to listen to them.


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      02-25-2010, 10:11 AM
PStamler <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> You might be able to set up a studio for an ultra-niche. For example,
> buy and clean up two old mono Ampex tape recorders and an old rotary-
> dial radio board (or build your own board, from tubes and Triad
> transformers). Put an Altec 604 in the control room, build the studio
> with linoleum tile floor and pegboard sound absorbers. Put in some E-V
> 664s and maybe an RCA ribbon. Do it in a cheap location. Slogan? How
> about, "Pro-Tools? PRO-TOOLS?? S--t, we don't even give you stereo."
>
> I bet you could rent it to punk-rockers til the cows come home.


I have had several enquiries about electrically-recorded cylinders
recently, they seem to be coming back into vogue.
[Not a joke, I'm serious!]

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