Best Guitar MIDI controller

Discussion in 'MIDI' started by Cron, Sep 20, 2008.

  1. Cron

    Cron Guest

    Hi there,
    I've recently discovered the power of MIDI and I'm loving every minute
    of playing my new M-Audio keyboard. The problem is I'm pretty bad at
    the keyboard so I was wondering what's the latest and greatest way to
    use a guitar as a MIDI controller? All the results from my google
    searches seem to be 5 years old.

    I'm looking for any advice. Does MIDI guitar even work at all? How
    reliable is it? How sensitive is it to touch? Do I need to get a load
    of new hardware or is there good software convertors available?

    Thanks a lot,
    Ciarán
     
    Cron, Sep 20, 2008
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  2. Hello,

    >I've recently discovered the power of MIDI and I'm loving every minute
    >of playing my new M-Audio keyboard. The problem is I'm pretty bad at
    >the keyboard so I was wondering what's the latest and greatest way to
    >use a guitar as a MIDI controller? All the results from my google
    >searches seem to be 5 years old.
    >I'm looking for any advice. Does MIDI guitar even work at all? How
    >reliable is it? How sensitive is it to touch? Do I need to get a load
    >of new hardware or is there good software convertors available?


    Great stuff for you keyboard is Live-Styler.
    Have a look:
    www.live-styler.us

    with best regards
    Norbert
     
    Norbert Stellberg, Sep 22, 2008
    #2
  3. Cron wrote:

    > ... I'm pretty bad at the keyboard so I was wondering what's the
    > latest and greatest way to use a guitar as a MIDI controller? All the
    > results from my google searches seem to be 5 years old.


    I have no idea about "latest and greatest", and the stuff I'm using is
    significantly older than 5 years, but it can be obtained relatively easily
    (search on Ebay, for example), and works quite well if setup properly.

    > I'm looking for any advice. Does MIDI guitar even work at all?


    Yes, though with limitations. I'm not skilled enough to try any
    Yngwie-style sweeped arpeggios, but I wouldn't expect flawless tracking
    that that speed, unless said Yngwie-style sweeped arpeggios were
    themselves flawless and expertly executed so that each note on every
    string was exactly consistent in attack, duration, etc.

    > How reliable is it?


    In the sense of, "does it work every time I turn it on?" or in the sense
    of "does it ever miss any notes?" For the former, it's completely
    reliable. For the latter, if you keep your picking consistent, and your
    guitar/pickup/converter is properly setup, it normally won't miss any
    notes.

    > How sensitive is it to touch?


    It depends on the individual setup. Mostly, though, you need to pick
    notes. At least with the setup I use, tapping is a bit hit-and-miss.
    Slides, hammers, pull-offs all work if there is a generous amount of
    picking included.

    > Do I need to get a load of new hardware or is there good software
    > convertors available?


    I know nothing about software converters. The setup I use is based around
    a Roland GR-09 for MIDI conversion, and most of the sound generation
    (I occasionally send MIDI from the GR-09 to another synth instead), with
    a Roland GK-2 hexaphonic pickup to trigger the GR-09. You need to set
    the height of the pickup just right, and the MIDI converter (in my case
    the GR-09) will include a sensitivity setting, adjustable per-string.
    At extremes you can get it to trigger on very light touches, but that's
    prone to false-triggering.

    I hope I've helped ...

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    Sylvain Robitaille

    Network and Systems analyst Concordia University
    Instructional & Information Technology Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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    Sylvain Robitaille, Sep 23, 2008
    #3
  4. Cron

    Cron Guest

    On Sep 23, 12:01 am, Sylvain Robitaille <>
    wrote:
    > Cron wrote:
    > > ... I'm pretty bad at the keyboard so I was wondering what's the
    > > latest and greatest way to use a guitar as a MIDI controller? All the
    > > results from my google searches seem to be 5 years old.

    >
    > I have no idea about "latest and greatest", and the stuff I'm using is
    > significantly older than 5 years, but it can be obtained relatively easily
    > (search on Ebay, for example), and works quite well if setup properly.
    >
    > > I'm looking for any advice. Does MIDI guitar even work at all?

    >
    > Yes, though with limitations.  I'm not skilled enough to try any
    > Yngwie-style sweeped arpeggios, but I wouldn't expect flawless tracking
    > that that speed, unless said Yngwie-style sweeped arpeggios were
    > themselves flawless and expertly executed so that each note on every
    > string was exactly consistent in attack, duration, etc.
    >
    > > How reliable is it?

    >
    > In the sense of, "does it work every time I turn it on?" or in the sense
    > of "does it ever miss any notes?"  For the former, it's completely
    > reliable.  For the latter, if you keep your picking consistent, and your
    > guitar/pickup/converter is properly setup, it normally won't miss any
    > notes.
    >
    > > How sensitive is it to touch?

    >
    > It depends on the individual setup.  Mostly, though, you need to pick
    > notes.  At least with the setup I use, tapping is a bit hit-and-miss.
    > Slides, hammers, pull-offs all work if there is a generous amount of
    > picking included.
    >
    > > Do I need to get a load of new hardware or is there good software
    > > convertors available?

    >
    > I know nothing about software converters.  The setup I use is based around
    > a Roland GR-09 for MIDI conversion, and most of the sound generation
    > (I occasionally send MIDI from the GR-09 to another synth instead), with
    > a Roland GK-2 hexaphonic pickup to trigger the GR-09.  You need to set
    > the height of the pickup just right, and the MIDI converter (in my case
    > the GR-09) will include a sensitivity setting, adjustable per-string.
    > At extremes you can get it to trigger on very light touches, but that's
    > prone to false-triggering.
    >
    > I hope I've helped ...
    >


    Hey thanks a lot for the info Sylvain - That's answered most of my
    questions. I appreciate the help.

    I'd still be interested to know what's the best MIDI guitar system
    around today for a low price tag and if there might be a software
    alternative to the GR-09. If anyone has any info on this, please post
    away!
     
    Cron, Sep 24, 2008
    #4
  5. Cron

    PaulBKaraoke Guest

    find a casio midi guitar. they are really good.
    i have played midi guitar for years, i have a gr09, had the roland gr300
    and gr700 in the day.
    the casio is the best.
     
    PaulBKaraoke, Oct 1, 2008
    #5
  6. Hello,

    have a look at Exon (or EXXON)
    Please google at this. This was a product of WERSI.
    But it was sell.
    with best regards
    Norbert
     
    Norbert Stellberg, Oct 2, 2008
    #6

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