Sennheiser Repair

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    BnE Guest

    Anyone know of someone other than Sennheiser itself who repair
    Sennheiser shotguns mics?
     
    BnE, May 21, 2010
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    jowillie Guest

    On May 20, 11:41 pm, BnE <> wrote:
    > Anyone know of someone other than Sennheiser itself who repair
    > Sennheiser shotguns mics?


    My experience of service for my MKH416 was very favorable with
    Sennheiser.
     
    jowillie, May 21, 2010
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    Scott Dorsey Guest

    In article <>,
    BnE <> wrote:
    >Anyone know of someone other than Sennheiser itself who repair
    >Sennheiser shotguns mics?


    Depends what is wrong and which shotgun it is. But Sennheiser support is
    actually very good and very reasonably priced. They'll even support the
    MKH108 although some parts are no longer available. There are other folks
    out there, but they'll be paying list price on parts.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
     
    Scott Dorsey, May 21, 2010
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    Sofa Slug Guest

    Sofa Slug, May 28, 2010
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    Dave O'Heare Guest

    (Scott Dorsey) wrote in
    news:ht5qj8$f12$:

    > In article
    > <>,
    > BnE <> wrote:
    >>Anyone know of someone other than Sennheiser itself who repair
    >>Sennheiser shotguns mics?

    >
    > Depends what is wrong and which shotgun it is. But Sennheiser support
    > is actually very good and very reasonably priced.


    Unless, of course, one lives in Canada. I tried to get a couple of MD421s
    repaired, and was quoted $300+shipping each. Yikes.

    Dave O'Heare
     
    Dave O'Heare, Jun 13, 2010
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    Scott Dorsey Guest

    Dave O'Heare <dave.oheareATgmail.com> wrote:
    > (Scott Dorsey) wrote in
    >news:ht5qj8$f12$:
    >
    >> In article
    >> <>,
    >> BnE <> wrote:
    >>>Anyone know of someone other than Sennheiser itself who repair
    >>>Sennheiser shotguns mics?

    >>
    >> Depends what is wrong and which shotgun it is. But Sennheiser support
    >> is actually very good and very reasonably priced.

    >
    >Unless, of course, one lives in Canada. I tried to get a couple of MD421s
    >repaired, and was quoted $300+shipping each. Yikes.


    The 421 is a particular problem.

    The 421 element is actually intended to be repairable... you can in theory
    replace the diaphgram and coil very easily with a bench vice and a soldering
    iron. The thing is, the diaphragm and coil assembly has not been sold as
    a replacement part for ages.

    This means that you have to replace the whole element when it goes bad, and
    the whole element is a big thing that takes a lot of precision machining and
    costs around $200. You can have Sennheiser put it in or you can do it
    yourself, either way you have to spend a lot of money to replace the whole
    damn thing.

    And the WORST part is that the 421 has been replaced with the 421 Mk II...
    so even though it's almost as cheap to just throw the mike away and buy
    a new one, the new ones sound completely different and aren't anywhere near
    as useful. So you pretty much have to bite the bullet and pony up. It is
    really annoying.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
     
    Scott Dorsey, Jun 14, 2010
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    BnE Guest

    On Jun 14, 12:01 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
    > Dave O'Heare <dave.oheareATgmail.com> wrote:
    > > (Scott Dorsey) wrote in
    > >news:ht5qj8$f12$:

    >
    > >> In article
    > >> <>,
    > >> BnE  <> wrote:
    > >>>Anyone know of someone other than Sennheiser itself who repair
    > >>>Sennheiser shotguns mics?

    >
    > >> Depends what is wrong and which shotgun it is.  But Sennheiser support
    > >> is actually very good and very reasonably priced.

    >
    > >Unless, of course, one lives in Canada.  I tried to get a couple of MD421s
    > >repaired, and was quoted $300+shipping each. Yikes.

    >
    > The 421 is a particular problem.
    >
    > The 421 element is actually intended to be repairable... you can in theory
    > replace the diaphgram and coil very easily with a bench vice and a soldering
    > iron.  The thing is, the diaphragm and coil assembly has not been sold as
    > a replacement part for ages.
    >
    > This means that you have to replace the whole element when it goes bad, and
    > the whole element is a big thing that takes a lot of precision machining and
    > costs around $200.  You can have Sennheiser put it in or you can do it
    > yourself, either way you have to spend a lot of money to replace the whole
    > damn thing.
    >
    > And the WORST part is that the 421 has been replaced with the 421 Mk II....
    > so even though it's almost as cheap to just throw the mike away and buy
    > a new one, the new ones sound completely different and aren't anywhere near
    > as useful.  So you pretty much have to bite the bullet and pony up.  It is
    > really annoying.
    > --scott
    > --
    > "C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


    Hope a MKH 416 T isn't as poorly designed.
     
    BnE, Jun 15, 2010
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    Scott Dorsey Guest

    BnE <> wrote:
    >On Jun 14, 12:01=A0pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
    >>
    >> The 421 is a particular problem.
    >>
    >> The 421 element is actually intended to be repairable... you can in theor=

    >y
    >> replace the diaphgram and coil very easily with a bench vice and a solder=

    >ing
    >> iron. =A0The thing is, the diaphragm and coil assembly has not been sold =

    >as
    >> a replacement part for ages.
    >>
    >> This means that you have to replace the whole element when it goes bad, a=

    >nd
    >> the whole element is a big thing that takes a lot of precision machining =

    >and
    >> costs around $200. =A0You can have Sennheiser put it in or you can do it
    >> yourself, either way you have to spend a lot of money to replace the whol=

    >e
    >> damn thing.

    >
    >Hope a MKH 416 T isn't as poorly designed.


    No, no, it's not a design problem at all. It's a support problem. The
    421 was _designed_ for easy and cheap repairability, the problem is that
    they won't sell you the parts to do the cheap repair any more.

    That's the case for some things on the 416T also...
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
     
    Scott Dorsey, Jun 15, 2010
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    Ty Ford Guest

    On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:21:11 -0400, BnE wrote
    (in article
    <>):

    >> The 421 is a particular problem.
    >>
    >> The 421 element is actually intended to be repairable... you can in theory
    >> replace the diaphgram and coil very easily with a bench vice and a soldering
    >> iron.  The thing is, the diaphragm and coil assembly has not been sold as
    >> a replacement part for ages.
    >>
    >> This means that you have to replace the whole element when it goes bad, and
    >> the whole element is a big thing that takes a lot of precision machining and
    >> costs around $200.  You can have Sennheiser put it in or you can do it
    >> yourself, either way you have to spend a lot of money to replace the whole
    >> damn thing.
    >>
    >> And the WORST part is that the 421 has been replaced with the 421 Mk II...
    >> so even though it's almost as cheap to just throw the mike away and buy
    >> a new one, the new ones sound completely different and aren't anywhere near
    >> as useful.  So you pretty much have to bite the bullet and pony up.  It is
    >> really annoying.
    >> --scott
    >> --
    >> "C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

    >
    > Hope a MKH 416 T isn't as poorly designed.


    Gear gets old or is abused and dies. Get over it.

    FWIW, I was comparing my 421 to the e-609 and found them extremely similar in
    sound.

    Regards,

    Ty Ford


    --Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services
    Acting and Voiceover Demos http://www.tyford.com
    Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWaPRHMGhGA
     
    Ty Ford, Jun 15, 2010
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    Scott Dorsey Guest

    Ty Ford <> wrote:
    >
    >Gear gets old or is abused and dies. Get over it.


    Right, but you should be able to fix them when they do. And you should be
    able to get the parts to fix them.

    >FWIW, I was comparing my 421 to the e-609 and found them extremely similar in
    >sound.


    Agreed. The pattern is a little different, but the lack of a presence peak
    is very notable on both. There aren't a lot of dynamics that flat.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
     
    Scott Dorsey, Jun 15, 2010
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    Ty Ford Guest

    On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:51:45 -0400, Scott Dorsey wrote
    (in article <hv8b31$s2i$>):

    > Ty Ford <> wrote:
    >>
    >> Gear gets old or is abused and dies. Get over it.

    >
    > Right, but you should be able to fix them when they do. And you should be
    > able to get the parts to fix them.
    >
    >> FWIW, I was comparing my 421 to the e-609 and found them extremely similar
    >> in
    >> sound.

    >
    > Agreed. The pattern is a little different, but the lack of a presence peak
    > is very notable on both. There aren't a lot of dynamics that flat.
    > --scott
    >


    Not so much through my preamps, Scott. To the OP, get one and give it a try.

    Regards,

    Ty Ford



    --Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services
    Acting and Voiceover Demos http://www.tyford.com
    Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWaPRHMGhGA
     
    Ty Ford, Jun 16, 2010
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    Dave O'Heare Guest

    Somebody wrote:

    >>> FWIW, I was comparing my 421 to the e-609 and found them
    >>> extremely similar in sound.

    >>
    >> Agreed. The pattern is a little different, but the lack of a
    >> presence peak is very notable on both. There aren't a lot of
    >> dynamics that flat. --scott
    >>

    >
    > To the OP, get one and give it
    > a try.


    I've got a couple of 609s, and agree that the sound very much
    like a 421. Now to convince the locals that they do sound the
    same, in spite of one being a "guitar amp microphone".

    Wish me luck...

    Dave O'H
     
    Dave O'Heare, Jul 21, 2010
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