Are you a lonely beacon of light in the blackness of the forum?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by 7_V, Jan 28, 2005.

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Are you a lonely beacon of light in the blackness of the forum?

  1. Yup, that's me - an oasis of reason in a desert of political stupidity

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  2. Nope, most of the others around here seem to have it right too

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  3. I'd say that about half the people agree with my politics, half disagree

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  4. I don't really have political views so I can't really comment

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    7_V I want a Linn - in a DB9

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    Something Dev wrote on the European thread made me think.

    He seems to think that he's in the minority on this forum because he's pro- Europe. I, on the other hand, am convinced that I'm in the minority because I'm against it.

    Similarly, I generally feel that I'm the only right-thinking person swimming in a sea of lefties. So I wondered ...

    Do you feel that you're a lonely beacon of light in the blackness of the forum?
     
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    Graham C

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    Steve, the dumbest thing about politics, is that we probably all agree on most things. People seem to want to make things seem further apart for debate.

    I think people do not generally see things as 'left' or 'right'. Look at all those slimey politicians who change parties. If it was all about ideology, how could that work? And if it's all about improving the world, then how come all those slimeballs are lawyers? No, they do it because it's a nice little earner, and jo public knows that. Personally, I'm probably a Nihillist. Heres something positive for the world.. sod the banks:

    http://www.timedollar.org/
     
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    Like Graham, I don't see things as left or right. My views regarding politics are a bit extreme. I don't think there should be any borders dividing countries. People should be able to live where they want to. I believe in Health care and education etc. for all like a good lefty but conversely have quite strong views on crime. I.e. show no mercy and hang them by their wotsits, whatever the crime, only kidding :D, but I do believe more in victims rights than the criminal's. So what does that make me? A lefty or a selfish right wing so and so? How should I vote?

    BTW, I dislike all politicians. I'll start thinking they're humans once they start answering their questions in a plain simple language without evation and remember that they were elected by the public to serve them not rule them. And what's with the ever increasing salaries and expenses. You have the honour to serve the public FFS, you're not in it for the money:grrr:.
     
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    Bob McC living the life of Riley

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    You're all out of step except me.

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    lordsummit moderate mod

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    Na there's the mail reading scaremongerers and then you've got your loony liberal lefties like me. Lifes simple when you look at it that way
     
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    julian2002 Muper Soderator

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    well said dev.
    cheers


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    I-S Good Evening.... Infidel

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    Politix? Do they make transistors?
     
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    Matt F

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    I feel the same Steve so you're not alone. I never had a problem with Old Labour - didn't agree with them on much but you knew where you stood with them - they were true to their values. New Labour, on the other hand, with their "do as I say not as I do" I despise.

    They, and the BBC to an extent, seem to have spread this deplorable disease of smearing anyone with whom they disagree. Question immigration and you are tagged a racist, question anything about the EU and you are a "Little Englander". Hardly helps constructive debate does it.

    The Lib Dems are even worse - instead of challenging Labour's policies and thereby maybe helping the nation, they seem to concentrate all their efforts on discrediting any Tory policies in the hope that they might be able to oust the Tories to the 3rd UK party. What a frightening thought that would be - a choice of the left or the loony left!

    Although I find myself on the right, I think more in the realms of common sense when it comes to policies. For example, I think public transport should be state owned and subsidised i.e. it should be really good and run at a loss.

    Government should be small (hasn't it doubled or something since '97) and should respresent the views of the people wherever possible. The people who really need help should get it, those who just want help 'cus they won't help themselves shouldn't.

    Taxes should be simplified - what's the point in taxing someone on minimum wage and then giving them some back via income support - why not just don't tax the first £10K of wages full stop?

    Lots more to say but that will do for now.

    Matt.
     
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    7_V I want a Linn - in a DB9

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    Even the BBC's own enquiry has uncovered EU Bias (see post #41)
     
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    leonard smalls GufmeisterGeneral

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    What I find quite weird is, that no matter who's in power, the BBC get a kicking...
    That kind of says to me that it's quite un-biased seeing as how everyone's having a go at them!

    I would say, however, that the only BBC news worth taking any notice of is the Radio 4 and World Service news.
    TV news is far too emotive, even on the beeb - I think they should stick to the facts without the use of words like "horrific" or "disgraceful". I'd like to make up my own mind rather than being told what to think!
     
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    michaelab desafinado

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    I certainly feel that I'm in the minority on the forum with my left-wing views.

    Michael.
     
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    amazingtrade Mad Madchestoh fan

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    There is a nice Morrissey lyrics in a song called Teenage Dad on His Estate, its about how middle classes tend to look down on people from council estates.

    Some lyric quotes:

    You refer to the views of the televison news let someone else do your thinking for you.

    You Still buy your daily paper and you find everything in it but the news

    I think its quite true, my sister is doing a media studies module at university and she is always telling me how the news is written in a way so that in inflicts opinions on people rather than facts.

    Much of what you see on the news is propoganda. Do we really know whats going on in Iraq is what they are saying it is?
     
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    Tom Alves

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    FWIW I'm a beacon of sanity & light

    Economic Left/Right: -9.50
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.23
     
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    tones compulsive cantater

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    Lonely quadrant, only Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama as neighbours. Still, nice neighbours, if nothing else.
     
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    Tones, you have another neighbour:D. I guess Michael's not the only lefty on this Forum:).

    I admire Dalai Lama and Nelson Mandela, but Tom's almost off the scale :yikes:
     
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    Hi,

    Economic Left/Right -3.88

    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -5.08

    Interesting.

    SCIDB
     
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    leonard smalls GufmeisterGeneral

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    It's a while since I tried the political compass, but my results show I haven't mellowed with age:
    Economic left/right; -7.13
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian; -6.92
     
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    michaelab desafinado

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    Here are my results:

    Economic Left/Right: -5.63
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38

    Michael.
     
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    lAmBoY Lothario and Libertine

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    Economic Left/Right: -5.38
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    Hmmm
     
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