Budget System

Discussion in 'High End Audio' started by mt, Oct 8, 2004.

  1. mt

    mt Guest

    Like so many others, I'm looking to build a good system on the cheap.

    Right now, I only have $1000 bucks to spend.

    I'm keen on the NAD C320 BEE ($400). Unless somebody knows of a
    better deal for the money, I'm sticking with the NAD.

    For now, I think I'll stick with my current CD player (Sony). I will
    upgrade later.

    Now for speakers...
    I like the Huark Epilogue ($500). I would prefer to go the bookshelf
    route as opposed to floor standing (for reasons of space). I'm a bit
    worried that I'll long for more bass. However, at my first test
    drive, I thought the Epilogues handled the low end pretty well all
    things considered.

    Any other suggestions for speakers?

    Thanks in advance
    mt, Oct 8, 2004
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    Bob Marcus Guest

    A good choice.

    I picked up a Pioneer Elite brochure the other day and discovered they
    make an integrated, the A-35R, rated 45w/ch into 8 ohms (65 into 4),
    although they don't list a distortion spec. (Hmmm.) I think it goes
    for only $250, so it might be a great value, but I don't know anything
    more about it.
    As good as any.
    If you're concerned about bass, I'll echo a recommendation made in
    another thread: Try 'em at home. Bass can really differ depending on
    how big a room you're trying to fill. Don't assume you'll get the same
    response at home that you hear in a shop.

    Bookshelf speakers worth a listen in your price range ($400-600)
    --B&W 601/602
    --Paradigm Monitor 3/5
    --PSB Image 2B

    That's only a beginning, really. There's no best speaker, so it comes
    down to what you like. You're better off choosing among whatever
    brands you have reasonably available to you than trying to track down
    a speaker that somebody tells you is the greatest. If the Huarks sound
    good to you (at home!), then they're a good choice.

    Bob Marcus, Oct 8, 2004
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    Bob Marcus Guest

    I almost added the Energy C-3 to my list, but then decided to stick to
    models I'd actually heard. Still, based on measurements alone, I'd say
    it's worth a listen:


    What makes you say "you have to be careful" with Energy?

    Bob Marcus, Oct 10, 2004
  4. If that is the case, they *are* not bookshelf speakers, now, are they?
    :) I think that is a problem with many speakers, they are not
    designed for a room at all. It should not be that thard to design a
    speaker for bookshelf placement, in fact it is a rather ideal
    placement: a half sphere with a rather dead surrounding.

    On the other hand: if the speakers are designed to be placed on stands
    well away from the wall, they should marketed as such.
    I agree, if the stands must be there, why not put the volume to good

    Per Stromgren, Oct 10, 2004
  5. I thought that on this group one needed to use a real address, but
    I got a bounce ?
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    550 ... User unknown

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    was approved. You won't see any more from that address. -- deb ]
    I suggest an universal player (DVD-Audio, SACD) for that upgrade.
    Buy (maybe later) _also_ a subwoofer. That is what I have (bookshelf
    speakers + subwoofer) and I think it is much better than the
    bookshelf speakers alone. Most subwoofers can be connected between
    the amplifier and the speakers, that is, even if the amplifier
    doesn't have a subwoofer output.
    Rui Pedro Mendes Salgueiro, Oct 10, 2004
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    goFab.com Guest

    My only comment on this is on the NAD. One thing that often is overlooked with
    budget systems is that, if you have only $1,000 to spend, then it's likely that
    reliability and longevity will be as important to you as sound. In this regard,
    I've unfortunately found, in the past, that NAD components don't really make the
    grade -- they sound great but, in the past, I have had issues with the build
    quality and durability of their components (this has been the case, in my
    experience, with multiple components they make, including integrateds and
    tuners). My experience is a bit dated at this point (once bitten, twice shy),
    so it may be that they have addressed these problems. I admittedly can't
    comment from personal experience on their current line.

    On speakers, you might also look at Polk; a used set of Vandersteen 2Cs (you
    might be able to pick up in the $500 to $600 range) is an interesting idea if
    you change your mind about floorstanders, in that they would likely address your
    bass issues pretty well and simplify the setup process. They have the benefit
    of being quite shallow for their height so the footprint is not massive.
    goFab.com, Oct 11, 2004
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    Stu-R Guest

    Fluance SV-10 (295/pr.) with or without B-10 subwoofer. very good
    build quality, too. You'll have to spend more than $1500 a pair to
    do better.


    Stu-R, Oct 19, 2004
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    normanstrong Guest

    The essence of what you're saying is that there's no reason why there
    should be any speakers between $300 and $1500--or did I misunderstand

    normanstrong, Oct 20, 2004
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    Stu-R Guest

    No. I said what I said. No more, no less. I've owned more than 25
    speaker systems. And I've known a many people in the industry -
    designers, manufacturers, reps, and marketing folks. I can't account
    for their pricing, sales volume, or lifestyle. It's just another
    business. And they're entitled to a livelihood. For absolute quality
    and performance, I would certainly prefer a set of Aerials (at
    $27,000). And the size listening room to do them justice.
    Nevertheless, Fluance has done a great job and they sound great
    Stu-R, Oct 21, 2004
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