Current feedback headphone amp

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    peranders More is better

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    At the moment I really like current feedback amps. I have designed three of them now and my latest which left my computer recently is waiting to be built.

    The amp consists of a discrete built current feedback with peformance close to this , two separate power supplies, one for each channel and those PS' have super regulators with "snubberisation". I have added a resistor in series with the 100 nF decoupling cap. Check the schematic and you'll see what I mean.

    The design of the amp itself is an improved version of the QRV-06 . I have added input bias current network and an optional DC servo.

    http://sjostromaudio.com/pages/hifi-projects/36-hifi-projects/94-qrv08-headphone-amp

    I expect I'll order prototype pcb's in a couple of months. I'll guess nobody will scream for this design but if so, I'll maybe order sooner.
     
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    The design looks nice enough Peranders but a lot of people run scared at the site of smd;)
    Personally I have no problem with smd but it seems a lot people find it fiddly
     
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    peranders More is better

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    I have got the pcb's now. Can't wait to get the soldering iron heated up.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Sorry can't cope with SMD even with glasses.......Which is a shame,as I was thinking of building a headphone amp.
     
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    peranders More is better

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    That's life, sorry. Shaky hands aren't so good... It's a very good idea not to exhaust your muscles just before you are going to solder. Once I had braked pretty hard with my bicycle and afterwards I was so shaky it was ridiculous. Guess what happens if you tremble 1-2 mm when your are going to solder something with 1.28 or 0.63 mm pitch.
     
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    Hi,

    I have allways liked them. BUT, why ON EARTH a headphone amp?

    Anyone wanting to listen to current recordings needs a headphone Amp like a fish needs a Harley.

    How about making the next one a battery powerable (+/-12V), bridged poweramp good enough to get near "rail to rail" performance and ability to drive 2 Ohm, still using discrete CFB?

    L8er T
     
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    peranders More is better

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    For me at least half the pleasure is to design, the journey is the goal, so why not. What type of topology do you prefer?
     
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    3DSonics away working hard on "it"

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    Hi,

    Headphone Amp's I prefer to ignore, together with headphones.

    Otherwise, if using feedback solid state circuit anywhere classic CFB (diamond transistor) circuitry is hard to beat, j-fet inputs are nice in that, adding a lot of cascoding can be great too.

    So, how about a BYOB SMD CFB Poweramp, with only output transistors as leaded components?

    Ciao T
     
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    peranders More is better

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    I'll guess you haven't seen this:
    CFB, SMT, 4-layer pcb etc.

    http://mirand.dk
     
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    Jeez, hundreds of transistors - and it still needs a trimpot
     
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    peranders More is better

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    Is this a comment without any technical insight or do you think many transistors automaticly give you a fixed bias? Power amps normally have adjustable bias.
     
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    MartinC Trainee tea boy

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    Care to expand on that? Not sure if that's a criticism of modern recordings or of headphone listening in general? Many people (myself included) are pretty much forced into at least some headphone listening due to neighbours and poor soundproofing.
     
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    Hi,

    Virtually all stereo recordings ever made only work if played via speakers. If playd via headphones the whole thing is FUBAR. The notes are still there, but the music & experience is absent, which is fine for casual background listening, but then a "high quality" headphone amplifier makes no sense.

    Ciao T
     
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    wadia-miester Mighty Rearranger

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    I would beg to differ
     
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    MartinC Trainee tea boy

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    Probably a discussion for another thread, so I'll just say that I stongly disagree with that.
     
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    3DSonics away working hard on "it"

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    Hi,

    You can beg all you like.

    EVEN with extensive analogue acoustic modelling (crossfeed, re-equalisation etc.) done really well it is at best a major turnoff.

    The only way to sort out that mess is to replay the recording in a "normal" listening room and to re-record it binaural OR to simulate the process in software sufficiently closely, which is looking like itmay be available some time soon, but is not there yet.

    Ciao T
     
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    peranders More is better

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    .... mm, I also prefer loudspeakers but this thread was about my headphone amp and not about headphones are better than speakers. Anyone who has a comment about the amp, technically or otherwise?
     
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    More tosh!

    There are situations where people may need headphones, for what ever reason.

    Why not persue a quality amp design. Just because you dont like them is no reason to be so offensive to the OP.
     
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    wadia-miester Mighty Rearranger

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    Thorsen, I will thanks in a non arrogant indo European way :)
     
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    Hi,

    London transport comes to mind.

    My point is that headphones take you so far from anything resembeling a coherent, at least semi-realistic experience that there is little point persuing quality.

    I can tolerate Koss or Stax ESL Headphones (too heavy though) with free-field EQ and crossfeed applied, but if I'm sitting down to listen with this kind of setu I rapidly find better stuff to do.

    Ciao T
     
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