Had a go with supports...

[lowrider]

Last night I tested a trio of AudioPrism Isobearings under my FMJ DV27, amazing...

The stage increased to right beside me, in stereo of course, before it was about 1 meter outside of the speakers, more AIR, (this is for WM's dictionary ), more space between the instruments and voices, sounded more detailed...

All this for about 60 pounds, now I know supports can make a difference, still, as I rarely seat on the sweet spot, and use surround most of the time, I will stick with this cheap solution... :JPS:

 

[julian2002]

nice one, yes supports can make a difference it's whether you like that difference that's important.
i used to have a seismic sink under my cdp. more air, soundstage out the wazoo but for me it killed any sort of prat / groove / musicality so i've moved it under my pre where it still gives air , etc. , although not as much but without killing the prat / groove / etc.
it really is horses for courses ime.
cheers

julian

 

[Robert Edgar]

Well funny you should say that i have just got my father in law to make some oak cone feet (hehe copyright Russ Andrews)

What a difference
I can't believe what they have done to the sound
I have them under my meridian 206b
I thought it sounded good before but now you can here the air around the instruments.

Good description.

Robert

 

[penance]

LowRider,
how complient is the rubber material used on the isobearing?

Im designing my own TT with a dual plinth setup, they could be just what i need between the plinths. I will have around 10KG on the top plinth, would they support that?

 

[eisenach]

I came across cd-str5 in Germany. Absolutely brilliant. It's a set of plastic rings, each supporting a webbing and a pad for the equipment's feet to sit on. I couldn't believe the difference they made to the sound. They were on sale in the UK for a while, selling at £59. I've got them under everything, and each time they went under something new, it made a difference. Correct support is very important!

 

[The Devil]

Get away! - supports make a difference? Whatever next?

 

[eisenach]

The Devil Get away! - supports make a difference? Whatever next?

Well, not everyone believes it.
... but there's no-one like the converted to preach!

 

[n24]

i am using audiophile base platrorms under my equipment and it made the world of difference to my cd and pre.

 

[julian2002]

james,
i think most of us here would agree with you that supports make a difference. except tones who admits aural failings freely. the point is wheter the support 'changes' the sound in a way pleasing to that individuals ear which is not something that can be stated as the same for everyone.
cheers

julian

 

[lowrider]

Penance,

See here:

They are incredible, you drop them from heads hight, and they just stop on the floor, no bounce at all...

Julian,

My system's middle name is PRAT...

Last night I tested with surround, the benefits are there too, I have got the larger than life stage and seamingless transition to the surround speakers I only had in my previous room, keeping the new room's advantages... :MILD:

 

[The Devil]

Anyone who doesn't believe supports make any difference should place their CD player on top of one of their speakers and play a track.

 

[lowrider]

No one places their players there, so that wouldn't be a conclusive test...

 

[penance]

ive got a support on my knee

seriously tho, they make hell of a difference. Has anyone tried coupling and de-coupling for the same device?

Im thinking of adding slate slabs, so they would be coupled to the rack by cones, and then a decoupling device between slate and unit.
Make sense?

 

[lowrider]

If your rack is rigid enough, I don't see the need for coupling...

 

[tones]

Originally posted by julian2002
except tones who admits aural failings freely.

Who admits the possibility of aural/perceptual failings, please! And who has never ruled out the possibility that support enthusiasts may have vivid imaginations. But, hey, it's a free country!

 

[penance]

Originally posted by lowrider
If your rack is rigid enough, I don't see the need for coupling...

Hmm fair point:SLEEP:

 

[lowrider]

Tones,

As you noticed, I got back what I already had in my previous room, without supports...

My guess, inspired by someone else's post, is that, as I removed the rack's wheels in the new house, the rack is coupled to the floor and the vibrations that come from the speakers and subs, transmit to the player...

So the supports do what the wheels did in the old room, perhaps even better... :MILD:

 

[The Devil]

Originally posted by lowrider
No one places their players there, so that wouldn't be a conclusive test...

Don't be silly. If the support doesn't matter, then it doesn't matter where you site the gear, and that includes on top of a speaker.

Now that you've learned something about supports, try the best.

 

[lowrider]

Yes it matters, if you place it on the speakers it is not the same as on a reasonable rack...

 

[The Devil]

You are completely missing my point, this may be due to a language barrier.