kimber 4tc jumpers

kimber 4tc jumpers + isolda dct



anyone used / opinions on these ?
seriously considering getting single lengths of isolda imminently. and so will need something to bypass the links. the kimbers are currently £40.50 in 10% sale

figured would cost me half that (or more?) just to get 8 decent connections (4 bananas and 4 spades i guess) then there's the wire to use ?

thoughts, anyone ?
thanks

 

Rob, if you ask max nicely, he'll give you some isolda to make jumps F.O.C. he gave Timpy .5m to make his, but be warned very tricky. WM

 

tone, thanks for the tip - should really call townsends today !

in fact, maybe they'll make them for me ?

 

An alternative is if your speakers have the screw down cable clamping method is to do the following.

Take four lengths of copper tube lenght depends on the distance between the terminals plus a 1cm

flatten the tube in a vice and measure the relative positions and dia of the centre pin of the speaker terminals. Mark out on the flat tube, and cut to allow tube to slide into position.

I had a number of sonic benefits using this method over the "normal wire route", probabley due to the very short length, no joints, no crimping, no solder, massive ammount of conductor and it cost next to nothing.

 

Or just strip four short pieces of Isolda and use them un-terminated, I do that with 3 wires of my DPA 16 per shunt...

 

António I don't know how easy that would be with Isolda as it's the conductors are 2 flat strips of copper about 1.5cm wide. The cables themselves have a special terminating 'box' with leadout wires (which also serves as an inductor):



Michael.

 

I am sure he can use pieces like the leadout wires as shunts...

 

or maybe

i'll replace the bulleted MF nuvista with something "nice"

or maybe i'll do nothing

arghhhhhhhhh need more money to satisfy hifi "urges"

 

Robert

Don't know what speakers you have but when I tried the jumpers I did the following :-

Got an unterminated pair of the jumpers (£10 and therefore MUCH easier on the wallet, always a good thing!)

Wired them top to bottom, then plugged the bananas into the "top" of the plugs if you see what I mean.

Cheers...

 

Whats in the tube on the pic........is it a L-C network ?

Those out lead wire look a bit, well cheap !
As a wireophile does anyone know what the basic wire is ?
The isolda is always recommended but I've never seen a break down of it, to understand why its so highly rated.

 

Hi Zanash

The cable is Goertz M2, he buys it on the reel, freezes it (DCT) and puts a zobel network on the end to make it stable into Naim amps and the like.

M2 is the middle of the range of Goertz M series (M1, M2, M3).

The picture below shows M1 M2 and M3. They are the flat copper coloured cables. M2 is the middle sized one, M3 is the big fat monster one.

Ive always thought that Townshend use M2 because Goertz only sell M1 and M2 on the reel and not M3. I cant imagine it being cost effective for Townshend (or electrofluidics) to make their cable using short lengths of M3.

Goertz doesnt have a UK importer anymore, so anyone wanting it has to get it from the states or buy second hand UK stock. In the US its very popular.

 

oh well

just ordered a 1 metre bfa > bananas pair of isolda speaker cable.
and if you ask, they send you copper jumpers - i guess these should be better than the metal links that come with the speakers ?

and even though the cable is bespoke, they still do 28 days trial - full refund if you don't keep it.

which is nice. should be here by the end of the week, they said.

might get those kimber jumpers on the 60 day trial. see if they work out.

 

Zanash, this is what Townshends website says about them :-

Robbo

 

There is an interesting alternative solution for all of you tweakers, I read in AA:

Remove the speaker terminals and solder both internal connections to just one pair of terminals, no more shunt problems... :MILD:

 

Hmmmmm, most amplifiers already have this type of inductor fitted internally...although it is only in series with the + spkr out terminal.

JC

 

Most correctly designed ones, now Naim on the other hand
:JOEL:

 

now now boys

you might upset the naimies amongst us :club:

 

Get your Zobel networks Er......, nice an cheap 2 pound a' £1, get while their hot , let your naim be free, get em her all the zobel networks your ever need :notworthy :banghead:

 

isolda's arrived yesterday.
ordered on tuesday, arrive on thursday, so excellent turnaround.
nice film can ! (shame could have had some bubble wrap stop them "sliding" about)
the copper connections to use as jumpers were missing - so waiting for the kimber jumpers to arrive.
very well constructed. the metal cylinders slide up and down a little - was expecting them to be fixed in place - but that's ok, obvious that's supposed to happen.
connected them up. had to use "nasty" links. wired them red to top and black to bottom on the diagonal.
improved after a few tracks when i realised the right speaker was out of phase
omg
good, aren't they ?

 

Rob, glad you like em, in 99% of systems we tried them in, they'd made a very nice improvement all round. WM