Linkin Park - Reanimation

[Dean]

I thought Hybrid Theory was excellent, but this takes the prize! There are so many good tracks on this album, from remixes of Points of Authority to In The End. In fact I don't think I've had as much fun with this CD since Rage Against The Machine debut album!

 

[MO!]

Don't really get all this "nu metal". Even at 23 I feel too old for it.

 

[julian2002]

haven't heard reanimation. hybrid theory was a corker and meteroria was dissapointing (imo).
mo, at 34 even i get nu-metal! best of the lot is OPM though, menace to sobriety is an amazing album for that jump up and down factor (again imo).
cheers


julian

 

[MO!]

It all sounds too samey to me. Both musicaly and lyricaly it just seems to ooooooooooooze cheese. A friend of a friend came over to join us for a "session" a few weeks back and had a few cds with him. Linkin Park, Puddle of mud, and that Avril Lasummat. I felt old. Watching him say about how "wicked" certain tunes were, I just didn't connect with it at all. Sounds so false and predictable. The way he was going on about them was probably the same way I used to go on about Nirvana etc... at his age. He even played a few acoustic tracks to try and "sell" them, in much the same way as I would have played a similar thing from Nirvana to show people what they could do. The sentiment is nice, getting knocked down, but getting up again (chumbawumba?) and fighting on etc... but just sounds so false!

All IMO

Rock on kids

 

[ram]

The only nu-metal band worth listening to,and they hate that tag, is Deftones. Check out their latest single Minerva for an idea of what they sound like. They have been described by the musical press as the Radiohead of NM, which maybe a little far fetched but not far off.

Try White Pony album, its their finest imo.
________
FREE DRUPAL THEMES

 

[ilockyer]

I'm not really a fan of the nu-metal either. I've seen or heard most of the bands mentioned above, and I certainly can't say anything good about the Deftones as a live band on the strength of their "performance" at Leeds in 2000. Talk about dull, lifeless and plodding through the motions. Even Limp Jizzkit were better! Most of it just sounds the same to me as well.

I'd far rather listen to Motorhead, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath et al than any of this nu-metal, Motorhead and Maiden are still going and kicking all these pretenders butts!

:guitar: :band: :guitar:

 

[MO!]

Originally posted by ilockyer

I'd far rather listen to Motorhead, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath et al than any of this nu-metal, Motorhead and Maiden are still going and kicking all these pretenders butts!

:guitar: :band: :guitar:

they're all shite too

oops, IMO

 

[julian2002]

Talk about dull, lifeless and plodding through the motions.

yup, the radiohead of nu-metal then :ffrc:

cheers


julian

 

[MO!]

Originally posted by julian2002
yup, the radiohead of nu-metal then :ffrc:

cheers


julian

Radiohead = Dull, lifeless and plod through the MOtion???

You be mad in da hééd boyo!

 

[julian2002]

sorry mo, i guess i just never got radiohead. in another thread sideshowbob is accusing pink floyd of being whiney middle class tw*ts. this sums up my feelings about radiohead i'm not saying all their stuff is bad however i've only heard 2 of their songs i liked and one of those was a cover (creep). all the rest seem to be maudlin plodding dirges that have soured me towards any of their stuff.
cheers

julian

 

[Dean]

Wow, got some activity in this thread at last! I think Linkin Park are excellent, I also like a bit of Blink 182. Yes, I am 26 but don't feel the that I shouldn't listen to younger bands just because I am older.

Ram - yes the Deftones are v. good
Julian - if you thought Hybrid Theory was good, then you MUST listen to reanimation! It just 'grows' on you, i.e. you think you only like a couple of tracks, but then find yourself listening to the CD all the way through
Ilockyer - Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Motorhead.. a bit too old time for me :SLEEP:

Would love to hear Reanimation on DVD Audio, if I had a player that is! :MILD:

 

[lhatkins]

I liked hybrid theory I've not heard reanimation yet, but am going to add it to my next order, at 28 I don't feel too old for it! being one of the angry "young" men here its kind of fitting really Its got good tunes and plenty of SHOUTING, ya giv me more!.

Dont' know why they call it nu-metal though, sounds little different to the heavey metal bands of the 80's really.

 

[MO!]

Originally posted by lhatkins
Dont' know why they call it nu-metal though, sounds little different to the heavey metal bands of the 80's really.

cheese for the Nu generation Yo!!!

 

[notaclue]

Nu-metal isnt very good. Radiohead are not very good (though I havent heard new experimental stuff which might be better). I'm not sure if it will appeal to the 'nu-metal kidz' but the new Jane's Addiction album is out and it is very good. I suppose it is what could be termed metal but much more intelligent than yer average 'eavy metal.

 

[HenryT]

Originally posted by lhatkins
Dont' know why they call it nu-metal though, sounds little different to the heavey metal bands of the 80's really.

Name some 80's heavy metal bands that have anything in common with this nu-metal sh!te then? Most heavy metal bands from the 80's (along with most music from that era) was written by people who knew how to write a decent tune and at least had a modicum of humour or tounge-in-cheek-ness, even when they were being angry. It was all fun stuff to listen to and a good release. Nu-metal IMO has more to do with the infusing of rap and R'n'B(*ll*cks) styles into a "metal" genre, it's bastardised metal basically IMHO and sounds a world apart.

I prefer constructive anger that actually ends up going somewhere and being a release, rather than the let's bring everyone down to our level attitude and there's no hope and no release. Whilst I wouldn't exactly call Nirvana nu-metal, they are somewhat more traditional, IMNSHO Curt Cobain did himself and a lot of other people a decent favour by putting a gun to his own head. If you can't buck up, then do the rest of the decent people in this world a favour and get the f*ck out of this life i.e. if you ain't part of the solution then your're part of the problem. :JOEL:

 

[julian2002]

henry,
a little harsh on kurt there bud

soundgarden aren;t your run of the mill seatle / nu-metal / grunge group. they did a song called full on kevins mom about how the whole band fancied one of their mates mum;s so not without a touch of self ridicule i feel. still i enjoy their music.

as you say the 'nu-metal' is a mixing of hip-hop / rap / b'n'b however in my day we called it 'greebo' and had bands like jesus jones zodiac mindwarp and pop will eat itself doing it (imo better than most). however just because a relatively dormant genre has reanimated itself and is stalking the earth like a rotting zombie brain eater that doesn;t mean there aren't some worthwhile bands in that genre. hopefully one or two of them will stand the test of time my money is on linkin park if they can lighten up a bit while l really hope opm do too although they are probably less likely as they need a second album and are having 'musical differences'.

cheers

julian

 

[MO!]

Originally posted by HenryT
Whilst I wouldn't exactly call Nirvana nu-metal, they are somewhat more traditional, IMNSHO Curt Cobain did himself and a lot of other people a decent favour by putting a gun to his own head. If you can't buck up, then do the rest of the decent people in this world a favour and get the f*ck out of this life i.e. if you ain't part of the solution then your're part of the problem. :JOEL:

Quite possibly the MOst stupid thing i've read on this or any other forum!

Made good music = Personal opinion.
Human being = Fact
Husband & Father = Fact

 

[HenryT]

Originally posted by julian2002
soundgarden aren;t your run of the mill seatle / nu-metal / grunge group. they did a song called full on kevins mom about how the whole band fancied one of their mates mum;s so not without a touch of self ridicule i feel. still i enjoy their music.

Even though I'm not generally much of a fan of the Seatle and grunge rock scene either, I'd not lump them in with nu-metal, even I have more respect than that!

Which Sound Garden album is the Full On Kevin's Mom track from. Didn't get on with Superunknown (you'll be telling me next that it's from that album :shame: ), but doesn't sound like they're all doom and gloom then.

A friend of a friend brought a really interesting album to my attention recently, "Mad Season". They are apparently, so I was told, made of prominent members of various well known bands from the grunge rock scene like the guitarist from Pearl Jam, etc, IIRC. Their (Mad Season's) one and only album isn't the least bit grungy despite the band personel, more blues powered rock I'd say. So some good things do sometimes come out of the bad.

Originally posted by MO!
Quite possibly the MOst stupid thing i've read on this or any other forum!

Made good music = Personal opinion.
Human being = Fact
Husband & Father = Fact

Sorry MO, did I rattle your cage? Not quite sure why you thought the comment was stupid, but like you said music/personal opinion... Human, OK fair enough. But... Husband & Father, in that case, why would he have been so selfish to blow himself away like that then?

 

[MO!]

I would have put MOney on that reply "selfish act". Yes it is. That's not what we're on about though.
You said better off dead. Nothing about the act of suicide and it's selfishness etc... I agree with that. I think that the way you said he (celebrity doesn't stop him being a REAL person too), should "get the f*ck outof this life" is a bit daft though (IMHO ).

As I said, I could have put MOney on your reply.

"Husband & Father, in that case, why would he have been so selfish to blow himself away like that then?"

Indeed it is a selfish thing to do. But seems to me you've just said, if you're depressed and suicidal, then, you should do it, you're better off dead!

Cage Rattled yes

MO

 

[julian2002]

henry,
the soundgarden album in question is louder than love. it also has the minor hit 'hands all over' on it which was plastered all over mtv and beavis and butthead at the time.

i'll have to look out for mad season.

as for kurt cobain's suicide and how it impacted those around him well courtney love is a tough one to sympathise with, she seems to be about equal parts megalomaniac and egomaniac whith a dusting of control freak when it comes to kurts legacy. all of it fuelled by the american love of the dollar. the way she's acted when it's come to unpublished songs and a possible nirvana release of them makes me think that she's over the death of her husband and is now in the realm of cynical dollar grubbing.
cheers


julian