Need help with system improvements.

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    tones compulsive cantater

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    Yes and yes, respectively. Somebody on pfm gave me an idea today:

    On the first part of the journey
    All my hi-fi gear lacked life
    There were Sonys, Sanyos, bland, boring
    Played through boomy, boxy things
    The first time I met with a guy full of PRaT
    I heard music with no clouds
    The pace was hot, the soundstage was not
    But the air was full of sound

    I've been through my CDs with a player called Naim
    Had a sound you cannot disdain
    But no better than others, it’s plain
    You can seek for PRaT, but you’ll listen in vain
    La, la ...


    More work needed...

    Mana has an especial place in my affections. It was Mana's total failure to work that made me the s(c)eptic I am today. I am forever grateful.

    I am merely quoting the miraculous results quoted on the Mana website itself.

    Don't be silly, Mana from heaven can overcome anything.

    Only for sole music. And the carpets were sol(e)d.

    As a piece of string.

    Apparently the altimeter reading of a U2 that nearly hit it.

    Yes, after some modifications by Freeman, Fox & Partners.

    I plan to get permission some day.

    No, just a simple hole allows one to fiddle on the roof. (If I were a rich man, dumadumadumadum...)

    My what? What a question to ask an audiophool!

    On the contrary, it proved the brilliance of the Great Mr. Belt. Remember how we all laughed about putting CDs in the fridge to improve the sound? Well, Belt didn't go far enough - put the whole thing in the fridge and the sound is, for want of a better word, cool. Who needs cryogenics, when one can have altitude?
     
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    LiloLee Blah, Blah, Blah.........

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    I just wanted to say that one of the best systems I have heard was at POG's who used to work at Mana.

    He had a whole wall full of Mana, with the LP12 at eye level, masses of Naim into Isobariks.

    It was a wall of sound to be proud of and one of the few Naim systems that I could even stay in the same room with.
     
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    Did I hijack it?

    If so ....sorry!




    :)
     
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    sastusbulbas

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    :notworthy
     
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    sastusbulbas

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    Not mine!

    What colour is the thread?
    Does it have a needle attached?

    It could be just some discarded loose thread of someone's jacket?

    Anyone?
     
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    LOL, sorry, strikes my funny bone :), 9 pages and as far as I can tell, its try:
    cables,
    and stands,
    and everything else too:)
    - can't go wrong :D


    I reccon as your not so keen to change equipment initially, and can't move speakers easily..?
    Try an equipment rack and your diy mains cable.
    Maybe even a nice silver mains cable from FatKat, I'm part way through making one, quite amazed at what differences the demo one made in my set up.

    :)
     
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    sastusbulbas

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    Maybe try some basic Chord cables? Second hand off eBay?
    Or try some cheap granite chopping boards as supports?
    Or Nordost Points?
    Or try running only one amp?

    Maybe the Nad and Arcam combo are not complimenting each other? for instance two items with similar character may over egg the puddin!

    If you feel it is too laid back, some say glass supports can brighten up a system? Could try a rack with glass?

    I should say I do not think much of the cable you have chosen as an interconnect, I have used this myself, and still have loads of interconnect with that cable and the Van Den Hull type plugs kicking around, I found it quite uninvolving myself.

    Precious Metals Copper Tech Alpha isn't too expensive, and quite decent. My own preference regading speaker cable and interconnect is to have both from the same manufacturer usually?
     
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    Stereo Mic

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    READ THIS BEFORE YOU WASTE ANY MONEY.
     
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    sastusbulbas

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    Good advice, it is true that you can not radically change the sound of your equipment via cables and racks, only tweak it a little, it may indeed be as good as it gets?

    If you can buy it cheap on eBay you can usually sell it cheap on eBay, advance with caution.........
     
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    I my own personal opnion, not so.

    I have spent a considerable amount of time in the last year or so playing with racks and different support systems.

    Occassionally the gains have been minor, often they have been substancial.

    Whether any one goes down this avenue is IMO an entirely personal decision. I would say try it in a small way to start with.....see if you get results (and enjoy it) and make decision from there.

    My Dad spends much time editing photographs. To me that would be waste as pics stay on my computer and nobody ever sees them. The time spent on my audio system (IMO) has resulted in some thing that sounds better to me at least...........+I've gained an enormous amount of knowledge.........at minimum ££ too!

    Horses for courses.




    :)
     
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    Knightshade

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    What really annoys me is the fact that when you spend £3000 on a cdp you CAN improve with cheap tweaks....
     
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    Echoance

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    Hi, guys. Just thought I'd call in and let you know what I've done and how I've got on: very little/great!!
    Basically, I shoved my speakers 6" further apart (as much as they could go) and there's a huge improvement in the sound. It's...nice...to listen to now and I've got the boogie factor I wanted. I know the setup still isn't perfect and I'll be looking at other bits and pieces in the future but there's no real rush now, although I think a dedicated stand will help as the 4 components are stood on top of each other. Wwwobbbllllyyyyy!!
    Thanks for the advice. Neill
     
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    Could not agree more. For $3000 it should be all there. A quality powercord, footers and a power supply that dosn't require conditioning.


    rollo
     
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