PA Recommendations (Want some low-end w/o breaking the bank)

Discussion in 'Pro Audio' started by Nate K., May 9, 2008.

  1. Nate K.

    Nate K. Guest

    I'm sure this has been asked a million times so I apologize in
    advance.

    I'm in a 5-piece band and we've outgrown our current PA... mostly
    because the power-amp cuts out due to the small bars with no A/C we've
    been playing. We can't have that happen any more (has happened the
    last 3 gigs that didn't have a house PA).

    Ok, story time's over.

    We're looking in a price range of $1500-$2500 for a total package that
    will get us two mains, two monitors, some bass (doesn't need to be sub-
    sonic), a mixer, and power amp. Bass through the mains is prefered
    since we dont have a lot of cargo space for a big sub.

    We play medium sized bars and want to run the whole band through the
    PA (need 12 XLR inputs for mic'd amps, drums, vocals, etc.).

    Any suggestions on brands or packages that work well or brands to
    avoid? Our current amp that cuts out all the time (with only 8ohm per
    chan on a 1400w amp) is a mackie so there isn't appitite to go with
    them again.

    Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
     
    Nate K., May 9, 2008
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  2. Nate K.

    Paul Stamler Guest

    Buy a fan and put it on the power amp. If that doesn't work, have the amp
    checked out to make sure it's working properly. If it is, get a fan-cooled
    power amp that works.

    Peace,
    Paul
     
    Paul Stamler, May 9, 2008
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  3. Nate K.

    Scott Dorsey Guest

    So, fix it. Get an amp with proper cooling, that can handle power line
    sags. I don't see why this is a reason to replace your whole PA from
    the ground up.
    What do you currently have for mains?
    Why do you want to run drums through the PA in a medium-sized bar?
    Aren't they already too loud to begin with?
    When it's cutting out, how hot is it? How is it mounted? What is the
    power line voltage? Are you ever running it into clipping?

    And are you SURE it is seeing only 8 ohms per channel? If you have a
    cabinet with a damaged crossover it might be seeing a lot less.
    Fix your amp.
    --scott
     
    Scott Dorsey, May 9, 2008
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  4. Nate K.

    Mike Rivers Guest

    What can you salvage from your present PA system? If it's only a problem
    with the power amp, you can get a new one, or buy an electric fan for
    $20 and blow air on it to keep it from shutting down.

    There are so many possibilities. I'd suggest that you go to your
    friendly local dealer, look at some gear in your price range, turn some
    knobs, listen to some speakers, and make a list of possibilities within
    your budget. Then come back here asking what kind of experience people
    have with what you can buy. You don't want to buy this stuff mail order
    for two reasons. First, you don't want to buy speakers you haven't
    heard, and second, it's heavy and shipping cost will kill you.

    By the way, the first generation of Mackie power amps were famous for
    thermal shutdown, but they've been substantially redesigned. Still, I
    can understand that you might shy away from one. But be aware that the
    PA companies who are willing to pay for reliability because their
    reputation depends on it buy Crown, QSC, BGW, JBL, maybe Crest, and a
    couple of more exotic brands. They're quite a bit more expensive than
    the Mackie/Alesis/Behringer/Phonic lines.
     
    Mike Rivers, May 10, 2008
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  5. Nate K.

    Paul Stamler Guest

    Including a single strand almost too small to see. Check your cable
    connections with a magnifying glass.

    Peace,
    Paul
     
    Paul Stamler, May 10, 2008
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