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did anyone see the prog rock double bill on bbc 4 last night? quite interesting even if you only have a fleeting interest in the genre. the contorted lives of yes and elp were fascinating. unfortunately i missed the first 15 minutes of the history program but it looked quite good. it'll propably be on again, and again, and yet again so look out for it if you arfe interested in that kind of thing.
cheers


julian
 
Bought a freeview box recently so I could watch some of the music docs I kept missing, but couldn't get a picture on BBC4 last night (crap signal, scaffolding around the building ATM for roof repairs, I think they've put the aerial out of whack), so missed this and John Cale. Arse.

-- Ian
 
did anyone see the prog rock double bill on bbc 4 last night? quite interesting even if you only have a fleeting interest in the genre.
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The best bit was Peel's lengthy quote about seeing ELP's first gig after liking The Nice which ended ââ'¬Å"ââ'¬Â¦and quite frankly they were utter bollocksââ'¬Â ââ'¬â€œ the way he said it made me almost fall of the couch laughing.

so missed this and John Cale.
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The two prog programs were really good and also funny, but Cale was disappointing, really dreary and uneventful IMHO.

Tony.
 
I saw Cale live last year (support act were The Boredoms, how's that for cool?). Lots of people in the audience seemed unimpressed, but I really liked what he was doing, mostly dirge-like and introverted songs. A friend described him as "turning into the Leonard Cohen of Generation X" which seemed about right.

His nose seems to be getting sharper and longer, otherwise he's looking very chipper for his age (and chemical past). Anyone heard his new album? Any good?

-- Ian
 
I started watching Cale last night... dull as **** as far as I was concerned, I only lasted two songs!
John Cage the other night was more interesting than that.
 
Originally posted by space cadet
John Cage the other night was more interesting than that.
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Was that the combined documentary/concert thing on Radio 3 on Sunday? If so, yeah that was really interesting. Especially when the guy was guiding us through the sounds you could get out of a prepared piano. :)

Missed the prog prog on BBC4, but if I remember I'll try and catch it at 23:00 tomorrow night:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/listin...filename=20040121/20040121_2300_4544_60153_40

...which is followed immediately after by a re-run of "Rock Family Trees". So that's my evening's TV viewing sorted out for tomorrow then. :MILD:
 
there's an elp song that i saw/heard on the documentary. no idea what it's called or what album it's on but it was immediately recognisable. i think it was used as a tv theme tune a long time ago. anyone know what the hell i'm on about and which album it's on - it's not on tarkus or brain salad surgery cos i've got them and it ain;t there....
cheers

julian
 
Their version of Fanfare for the Common Man? God, that was piss-poor, but it's probably the ELP song everyone recognises.

-- Ian
 
Their version of Fanfare for the Common Man? God, that was piss-poor, but it's probably the ELP song everyone recognises.
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Either that or Karn Evil 9 Pt 2 which was part of the theme to the legendary Alan Freeman radio show back in the 70s, it's still piss-poor, but a different kind of piss-poor to their piss-poor rendition of the Copland piece mentioned above. The next contender is their piss-poor rendition of Mussorsky's Pictures at an exhibition, which incidentally raises the term piss-poor to a whole new level.

Tony.
 
PS I've just re-read Julian's original post, which rules out Brain Salad, so it looks like it is Fanfare for the common man. The problem is that it is to be found on the truly execrable Works Volume 1, a double album that features Keith Emerson's Piano Concerto No. 1 which arguably the most piss-poor 20 minutes of music ever in the entire history of recorded music.

Tony.
 
Tony, I'm worried by your comprehensive knowledge of ELP's piss-poor output. Are you hiding something?

-- Ian
 
Oh ELP, never really liked them and when I took along a Best of ELP to a bake off, the guys couldn't get out of the room fast enough.
 
Originally posted by sideshowbob
I saw Cale live last year (support act were The Boredoms, how's that for cool?). Lots of people in the audience seemed unimpressed, but I really liked what he was doing, mostly dirge-like and introverted songs. A friend described him as "turning into the Leonard Cohen of Generation X" which seemed about right.

His nose seems to be getting sharper and longer, otherwise he's looking very chipper for his age (and chemical past). Anyone heard his new album? Any good?

-- Ian
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Yes, I have 'HoboSapiens'. I think it is very good. You can hear a snippet of each song by following this link http://www.singingfish.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?query=hobosapiens
 
Tony, I'm worried by your comprehensive knowledge of ELP's piss-poor output. Are you hiding something?
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I have a comprehensive knowledge of many prog bands piss-poor output! I can't quite work out why, but I seem to have an encyclopaedic knowledge of prog rock ââ'¬â€œ it has served me well in finding stuff to sell on for decent cash to finance the stuff I actually want. In the past year I've probably made 400 quid out of Yes and Genesis alone!

I took along a Best of ELPââ'¬Â¦
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Must be a bloody short album.

Tony.

PS Side 1 of Tarkus is actually half decent as long as you make a really conscious effort not to catch any of the lyrics at all (a rule that serves you well with most prog)ââ'¬Â¦ Side 2 is back to their normal piss-poor standards though.
 

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