rs 'pink' speaker wire

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    i needed to get some replacement fuses for my amp so i checked in to the rs components website. whilst i was doing this i remembered a letter in the latest hifi world about a pink ptfe wire that is making waves in the north east hifi community.
    the stuff is £13.80 for a 25m reel so i figured what the hell, if it stinks i can use it as signal wire in the future.
    well, i can report that the buzz is well founded. i knocked up a single set of biwire to one speaker and the improvements were instantly apparent. detail retrieval seems the most striking thing here, but everything is improved to my ears. bear in mind that i have not terminated or twisted them and they are sounding great 'out of the box'.

    i hate the shite talked about hifi accessoires and cables especially - inky blacks and so on.

    i just know that there are 3 types of people here. those who would not try because cost depicts it cant work (too cheap). the cable non believers. and those about to spend on 'hi-end' leads.
    at £13.80 i suggest you give these a go - if i'm that wrong call me a fool and kick me out of the forum - i'll go and listen to some music.

    for those interested : rs components - 359-510 19/0.15 pink 25m reel
     
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    I have one word for you. Chord. Ching ching! The only difference between that and the chord stuff is .2mm or something. At that price just stick a load of extra runs in, its great stuff, sounds better than the 4 & 8TC stuff I was using before
     
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    you using it already?
     
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    Been using it for a while, I didn't realise other people were. Found it first from Audio-Links which is absolutely identical to the chord stuff but costs a bit more, RS is much better value. I'm using the type 19 0.2mm stuff though but its all the same, you just use more runs with the thinner types.
     
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    so, i may not get kicked out and called a fool. get in.

    in the last few weeks, by sheer fluke it would seem, i have stumbled across a myriad of inexpensive and worthy upgrades/tweeks.

    the upshot being, i had £2500 to spend on my set up and i have 'finished' well under £1500 AND my system has never sounded better

    life is good at the mo
     
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    have you done anything to it? twists and terminations etc?
     
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    Not really just loosely twisted it so it stays together a bit better. I don't think theres much merit in platting cables etc. its not gonna do the strands any good. Just soldered some bananas on the end.
     
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    Anyone remember the Sonic Link Silver Pink interconnect (from the company that rebranded itself Black Rhodium)?

    It's all out there if you go look.
     
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    that was silver plated, the Silver Pink
     
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    So is the RS stuff
     
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    i concur
     
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    oh fair enough. they only claim to make the higher end cables anyway and outsource for the cheaper ones.
     
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    I tried some 19/0.25 stuff from farnell. Basically the same stuff. Didnt really think much to it.
     
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    I had some similar wire. I made up speaker cable with a 4-way braid of two red, two black, run as bi-wire. I preferred my Tara RSC and sold the silver stuff.

    Farnell do, as hifikrazy mentioned, a heavier gauge (19/0.25):
    FEC 3221830 (25m Black)
    FEC 3221842 (25m Red)

    This is somewhat heftier stuff than Chord Rumour.

    As to how this stuff sounds, for the cable believers... It's ok. It is somewhat lean in the bass, it's quick and detailed and not harsh. It was too lean for my system/taste.
     
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    Yep. Far too lean. Weird because my current cable is QED Silver 12, but sounds nothing like it.
     
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    as i said earlier, i have been very lucky with my tweeks in the past few weeks.
    it may be that i have fluked a set of leads that are well matched to a vinyl/valve set up then.
    i replaced my tnt twisted twins with this new stuff and i noticed an all round improvement. also, a set of leads could costs just a bit more than a CD and you might not like that either.
    i appreciate your view though
     
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    Not according to the specifications it isn't

    Rumour uses 16AWG wire - the 19/0.25 stuff is only 18AWG

    Heath
     
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    Use more runs then, four isn't exactly a large surface area. Unless I've misunderstood.

    This stuff takes a month to work properly but is anything but bass shy.
     
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    Heath - maybe on paper, but Rumour isn't very thick when I've worked with it in the past.

    Anex - that was my experience of it. It was run for well over a month. Relative to the Tara RSC it was lean. It's not huge, but then neither is chord rumour.
     
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    Yeah but that was my point, I wouldn't want to live with chord rumour either, its everything you said it is. Most of the chord stuff is just adding more conductors to it. Try 8,10,12,16+ runs per side, it'll work MUCH better. That would be a silly argument if you were paying chord prices but at these prices its got to be worth a go.
     
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