Thorens TD-170 vs. TD-190 for 78rpm and some 33 rpm and even 45 rpm use

Discussion in 'High End Audio' started by Nimrod, Jul 20, 2003.

  1. Nimrod

    Nimrod Guest

    It's not easy to find a 78 rpm compatible stereo these days. The only
    two models I have found are the Thorens TD-170 and TD-190 turntables.
    Their website is completely uninformative and there are no
    ePinions.com reviews that are any help either.

    Is there any compelling reasong to choose one over the other?

    I'm not sure if this is a high end audio question exactly but I am
    looking to get a turntable for my stereo. It's not a high-end system
    that I have but it has Bose speakers and a Kenwood amplifier from back
    in the days when phono inputs were still included on the amps.

    I'm looking to listen to and dub some 78 records I inherited from my
    dad onto mini-disc and also to listen to and collect a few LPs and 45s
    that aren't available on CD.

    Any advice or wisdom from experience is welcome.

    Thanks,
    Bob Johnston
     
    Nimrod, Jul 20, 2003
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  2. http://www.rega.co.uk/html/planar78.htm
     
    Stephen McElroy, Jul 20, 2003
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  3. Nimrod

    Nimrod Guest

    I had heard that but I don't know much about it yet. I suppose the
    hobby could get a little involved after a while.

    One complaint I heard about the Thorens while doing a google search
    was that while playing some 78s the tone arm picks up prematurely. I
    guess the physical width of the tracking area vaires too.
     
    Nimrod, Jul 21, 2003
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  4. It depends on the age of these old records. If they're all from I believe
    1930 or later, playing them at 78 rpm would do fine. Although I believe the
    were actually recorded at 78,25 rpm.

    If you have older material, from the era of acoustic recording, these
    differences become bigger. On acoustic recordings the speed can vary from 72
    to 80 rpm.

    And of course there's the difference between vertically and laterally cut
    recordings. What the exact difference is, I don't know. Also some records
    have to be played from the center to the edge (like a cd), instead of the
    usual from edge to center.

    More info about this subject can be found on www.esotericsound.com. They
    also carry a line of record players modified for playing historical
    recordings.

    Bart
     
    Bart Tijmensen, Jul 22, 2003
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