top quality music sub

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    Guys, can you suggest a top quality sub for music?

    I know a bad one is worse than none, so it's going to be a balance. It's not for the lounge so spending a fortune on velodyne is out of the question. Musicality and extension are way more important than spl. The sub needs to blend into some dynaudio focus 140 for low level listening. I just want subtle extension.

    Are there any kits for about £500 that will be decent? Otherwise I will have to wait a while to save up. Second hand is an option too, for any more mainstream subs.

    So far I've been told anything with a volt driver would be ideal (as used in REL studio) or that a Peerless drive is also good, as used in these...

    http://www.bkelec.com/HiFi/Sub_Woofers.htm

    Any others?
     
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    SteveC PrimaLuna is not cheese

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    I don't know the kit world, but at that price and given your exclusion of Velodyne prices I'd go for a BK Monolith. They get very favorable comments from buyers.
     
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    Thanks, I'll look into it.

    My dealer said he can do a velo for 800, so that's tempting too, particuarly as he can home demo them.

    Just fired up the dynaudio for the first time at home. They're so smooth - a lovely antidote to the hard edged sound I'm used to. Highly recommended :)
     
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    I use a behringer truth B2092A and am delighted with it. Its cheap and very cheerful and much much better than it should be given the price!!!
     
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    If you're looking to go down the diy route, why not look around a bit and choose the best driver and plate amp you can afford and design a box yourself using winisd(free enclosure design aid which works out required box volume).

    You can get mdf cut to size from plenty of timberyards or specialists and use a router to cut the driver/amp holes.

    A good place to start looking is an anagram of Audi yodi. Should be plenty of ideas there.
     
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    wow....... missed that one
     
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    I think it would look rather fine in the left hand corner of my lounge, what d'ya think? :JPS:
     
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    no doubt a pair would be better... :D
     
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    Joolsburger just fitted one of the BK subs ... not the monolith, but the one down from that. He seems very pleased (he posted it to PFM and WigWam).
     
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    bottleneck talks a load of rubbish

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    Hi Ants

    I haven't compared the two side by side.

    The SMS-1 is designed by Velodyne for use with subwoofers, so personally I'd much rather have one for this specific application than a Behringer, which is a jack of all trades.

    The SMS-1 is essentially the room correction/ DSP/ mike/ Software that you get with Velodyne's DD range of subs.

    They are 575 new.

    http://www.hifibitz.co.uk/product.asp?id=6079&aid=15036
     
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    mr cat Member of the month

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    try on www.avtalk.co.uk/forum - you maybe able to get a cheaper one there...they specialise is velodyne subs (I won my sub from that site!)

    edit - founf this link - http://www.avtalk.co.uk/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=19887&start=0&rid=682&SQ=1178189059

    not sure it's still valid tho...worth trying!
     
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    I am pleased. XLS200 at £279 complete with all the bits. I've no idea how much it would market for out in the world of retail but you get a 10 inch peerless driver in a very well made box and a 275 watt amp with dual inputs and the like.

    I'm told it's around 500 quids worth but who knows. It's louder than my mains if necessary, works in sync with them and doesn't make any weird noises or cause boom or bloat. Turned it off last night whilst listening to the first Ninja Tune album it went back on straightaway. I'm told the BK monolith is even better but I think it's more than I need. Integration was very easy or perhaps I'm just easily pleased however considering the rest of my system I don't think I am.

    Subwoofers - I love em.
     
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    Just had an email from AVI. The 10" is a reasonable £700. The 18" is an unreasonable £5000. I'll have seven 10" please :)
     
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    Sounds like a bargain.
     
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    Indeedy
     
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