Véry good cables - I'll bet you don't know them

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    stumblin Kittens getting even...

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    I know this has been said many times before, but have you listened to them?
     
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    No, not personnaly


    Interesting debate:

    http://www.hometheaterspot.com/htst...=502726&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1



    Belden 89259 /Eichmann bullets vs. Kimber PBJ

    http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/cables/messages/85832.html



    But it is know, that Belden has good cables and if you look at the quality of their cables, it can't be bad.

    There are certainly people that make their own cables and use Belden cable.

    Also I found a company: Blue Jeans Cable
    http://www.bluejeanscable.com/
    They seems to be the cheapest out their, but haven't got a real warranty, there are no complaint though from their costumers.


    So we have Avic and Rhino Cables

    I'd personnaly think that the Rhino is the best.
    Why I'am saying that, because of the higher quality diëlectricum they use.
    Both have 30-day-money-back-guarantee and 5 year guarantee
    so that give confident to me, you can buy them without taking the risk
    Plus with Rhino you can make your cable to order, what plugs, what cable, you can choose the combination that you like the best and that's what costumer service is all about I think.

    If I wasn't a student and I had a credit card, I sould at least try one of their cables

    What do other people think?
    Thx for reading
     
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    I'm must correct this (!)

    from their site:

    'We hand-cut and terminate each of these cables ourselves, using Canare tooling, so we know they're done right and tested before they go out. We think you'll be impressed with their performance; but we also offer a complete, unconditional return privilege. If for any reason--or for no reason--you're not completely, utterly satisfied, just return the cables within 30 days and we'll refund your purchase price in full.'


    So Blue Jeans Cable DO HAVE a 30-day-money-back-guarantee

    So here you can't brake a leg, they use good, know and respected components for their cables so you can't gow much wrong
     
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    stumblin Kittens getting even...

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    You are a very trusting soul aren't you? Don't get me wrong, that's a laudible quality; so many of us are jaded and cynical.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is don't believe everything you read. The only thing you can trust is your own ears (and some on the forum would dispute even that).

    Wanna buy some interconnects? I made them myself... :cowboy:
     
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    Common,
    I am sure these cables will do with many systems, maybe not all.

    Belden cable is used in recording studios etc

    For the price, these are on of the better things, the most of my money go to source components etc, there you can spend your money on and get a excellent result, in good mix of quality all-around and for a good price.

    I am pretty sure that these cables will do with most of people

    Except if you have a home system +$5000

    Then you will see a slight difference, if it's not psychologic


    Oh and another thing, I am sure that you can't see or here the difference between a belden 1694a and 1695a
    The 1694a uses a gas-injected PE diëlectric
    and the 1695 uses a teflon one

    Well, If u use this cable on a length not larger than 10m, I am sure that you can't here a difference, and I can tell you that!!
    There I have done an extensive listening test.

    The difference will be noticable on a lenght of 1km or so, than you will see and here difference, but don't tell me the cost of that!!

    I'd like to get more comments positive or negative
     
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    What cable do you use?

    Belden and canare cable has a world reputation of cable and is produced with small tolerance, the only reason that this cable is relativly 'cheap' is that they produced in large quant, but with great care.

    And I can't exaxtly tell the result of this cable, just go to tv studios or something else, these guys work with such products every day, they can give you more info
     
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    Tom
    I think most people would agree, you cant say anything about a cable unless you have heard it yourself;)
     
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    you're right

    you're right, but I don't give a f... :) (sorry)

    I have people hearded that have had good result using Belden cable

    You have to hear them before judging, but there isn't much that can go bad

    Anyway, If I buy those cables, I gonna give a fair review posted here

    If someone is planning to buy a cable from Blue Jeans Cable or Rhino or Avic, post your review here, thx
     
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    Tom, I'll give you a little bit of advice on cables, just use your ears, we personaly went through over 150 cables (all catalogued & tested, with wbt toplines, stock bullets, silver bullets & furutec rhodium plugs, cryo'd,cooked), from belden,V/D, summer and other respected makes, to assess the range of preformance for both digital & analogue in the lower orders, in the end, we decided to make our own, FWIT I started with a 27 p bit of co-ax and some cannare plugs, that was a big upgrade on the Q 75 digital lead for sure, but, your really need to use your own ears to assertain weather or not YOU feel it's any good, besides as every one know on Z/G all cables make bugger all difference, and that anyone who doesn't use stock chords and bell wire is a complete idiot, so thats me in looney bin for life then :) T.
     
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    I made a pair of interconnects out of Belden 89259 and Eichmann bullet plugs, It's not bad but not a patch on my diy silver stuff, the Belden works best with bright systems
     
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    Somethings strange :-s

    I've checked the site of bettercables and I have seen something strange in my eyes.

    BetterCables uses silver-plating

    But the specifications of their Silver Serpent® REFERENCE Component Video Cable

    is exactly the same as Belden 1694a???
    The Belden itself don't uses silver-plating


    Compare these two
    1) http://www.bettercables.com/bettercablesdotcom/silserrefcom.html
    2) http://bwccat.belden.com/ecat/jsp/Index.jsp?&P1=null&P2=null&P3=null&P4=null&P5=null&P6=null


    Has bettercables a special deal with Belden??

    Does anyone knows this?
    I have heared that bettercables is a little overpriced(not much tough!), that they dide the Belden cable with wrappings etc.

    Can someone give an answer on this??
     
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    Tom, silver plating is certainly no garantee of improvement at all :eek:
     
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    Yes, but cable manufacters claim that.


    If you can choose between only two brands;

    Blue Jeans Cable

    or

    BetterCables


    Blue Jeans Cable seems praticly exactly the same as the BC



    Wadia, wich cable manuf. uses a mixed design of pure copper and pure silver conductors?
    I think, that should do it, in a good design
    But to find it for a fair buck, something else
     
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    I use solid silver with teflon sleeving. Why don't you have ago at making your own cables.
    If you really want to use Belden you can ask them for some free Samples, I got enough to make a pair of interconnects, I'm glad I tried it but I don't use it in my main system anymore, it makes the music sound too soft and closed in for my liking so I gave it a friend to try, he didn't like it either and passed it on to somebody else
     
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