What's your favourite mastering software for PC?

Discussion in 'Pro Audio' started by Ignace Dhont, Jul 4, 2004.

  1. Ignace Dhont

    Ignace Dhont Guest

    What's out there regarding "serious" mastering software for PC?
    Wavelab 5 has been recommended to me but before I take the plunge I'd
    like to ask if it's worth my money and my time. Are there better
    packages for PC?

    By the way, I can't imagine why some people post messages with
    political content on a forum like rec.audio.pro????? What's it doing
    here? What's their objective besides pissing me off?

    Regards,

    Ignace
     
    Ignace Dhont, Jul 4, 2004
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    Animix Guest

    Kerry uses Wavelab. Bush uses
    Sequoia.................wait!!!...............that was
    Nixon..................and Sequoia was a boat.
     
    Animix, Jul 4, 2004
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    Thor Guest

    Do you mean mastering as in "I have a few songs I recorded and mixed on
    my PC at home, now I want to master them"? Or do you mean "I'm setting
    up a mastering facility and wonder what PC mastering suite people
    recommend"?

    For the first question, WaveLab will be fine. You might want some
    plugins, which can quickly cost more thatn WaveLab itself. I don't know
    for certain if T-rax runs on a PC, and I haven't tried it myself, but
    I've heard it should be fine for stuff covered by the first question.

    For the second question, i.e. more serious stuff for a PC, that would
    probably mean SADiE. Pyramix is trying hard to compete against them with
    a reasonably new product that looks quite capable. The Mac equivalent
    would probably be Sonic HD.

    If you do loads of editing (classical), I've heard many people really
    like Sequoia.

    WaveLab is nice as well, a good budget package when you can't afford or
    simply don't need something like SADiE or Pyramix (or even Sequoia).

    Of course, if you meant question no. 2 you really should be talking to a
    few dealers and/or colleagues and test driving a few setups for yourself
    to see what best fits your way of working.

    Hope this helps.

    Thor
     
    Thor, Jul 5, 2004
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    Arny Krueger Guest

    There certainly are far more options than just these two.

    Try searching Google for "DAW software".

    Could someone complete a serious mastering project using Audacity which is
    freeware? Probably.

    Are there reasons why any good piece of DAW software couldn't be used for
    mastering? Probably not.
     
    Arny Krueger, Jul 5, 2004
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    RD Jones Guest

    Sound Forge !

    rd
     
    RD Jones, Jul 6, 2004
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    Max Arwood Guest

    Samplitude. Or better, Samplitude plus Waves Diamond bundle.
    Max Arwood
     
    Max Arwood, Jul 6, 2004
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  8. I wouldn't consider doing my own mastering unless mastering simply isn't
    within the client's budget... and then, I would set limits to what I would be
    willing to do and would still call it "pre-mastering". I find it better not to master
    in the same room where the project was tracked and the addition of a second
    set of ears can be invaluable. What software is used, as opposed to what the
    room you plan to master in is like and the second set of ears are like, can be an
    almost negligible matter. Add the word "serious" to a mastering scenario, and
    if the environment, the speakers, the experience, etc. don't far outweigh the
    software, you may be barking up the wrong tree to begin with.

    That said, I like the new Sony Sound Forge 7, which comes with CD Architect
    for PC based work.

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    Dallas, Texas (214) 662-9901
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    David Morgan \(MAMS\), Jul 6, 2004
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    TonyP Guest

    Actually the mastering program that Sony/Sonic Foundry make is called CD
    Architect.

    TonyP.
     
    TonyP, Jul 7, 2004
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    EricK Guest

    To me, Samplitude is the only way to go. It just makes sense to me. It
    does everything I need, and doesn't leave me wanting for more.

    --
    Eric

    Practice Your Mixing Skills
    Multi-Track Masters on CD-ROM
    www.Raw-Tracks.com
     
    EricK, Jul 7, 2004
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  11. Ignace Dhont

    Ignace Dhont Guest

    Thanks for all the info! I'm going to look at Wavelab, CD architect
    and Samplitude then. And at SADiE plus Pyramix just to see what I
    won't get.. too costly for me.


    Yes things like monitoring conditions are more important for mastering
    than the software package used, I know. Trying to make the best of my
    budget.

    Regards,

    Ignace Dhont
    Netherlands
     
    Ignace Dhont, Jul 7, 2004
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    Paul Guest

    I thought Nixon used a Uher reel-to-reel. And the Signal Corps had a
    very tough time trying to teach the technically-uninclined Nixon how
    to operate it. Rose Mary Woods, OTOH...
     
    Paul, Jul 7, 2004
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    Paul Guest

    (snippage)

    Waves Native Power Pack is an excellent set of plug ins, but it's
    bonecrushingly expensive.

    Cool Edit Pro (now Adobe Audition) is a decent tracking/mastering
    package as well.
     
    Paul, Jul 7, 2004
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    Scott Dorsey Guest

    Nixon actually used a Sony machine, and indeed he did have a lot of
    trouble figuring out which direction the switch needed to be in. It
    was Rosemary who had the Uher 8000 transcription machine on her desk.

    I dunno what Johnson used, but the Johnson tapes don't sound bad at all.
    --scott
     
    Scott Dorsey, Jul 7, 2004
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  15. I'll second the Adobe Audition recommendation - it might also be worth
    looking at the stuff from Minnetonka too.

    Cheers.

    James.
     
    James Perrett, Jul 8, 2004
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  16. : Paul wrote:
    : >
    : > > > What's out there regarding "serious" mastering software for PC?
    : >
    : > (snippage)
    : >
    : > Waves Native Power Pack is an excellent set of plug ins, but it's
    : > bonecrushingly expensive.
    : >
    : > Cool Edit Pro (now Adobe Audition) is a decent tracking/mastering
    : > package as well.

    AFIK neither Waves or CEP can burn a CD. Isn't that one requirement for mastering? Can you
    serially play and modify 10-20 songs with all your plug in's independently using automation,
    set start and stop points and burn a Redbook CD with this stuff above?

    No way AFAIK. I think you need to know what mastering is before you buy any of the stuff
    these folks are blindly recommending.

    Stienberg Wavelab, and Adobe CD archetect running under audition are what I would call
    mastering packages.

    Phil Abbate
     
    anybody-but-bush, Jul 8, 2004
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  17. If it's really all going to be done in a 'box' package.... best to pick up a Mac
    and go with Sonic Solutions.

    DM
     
    David Morgan \(MAMS\), Jul 8, 2004
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    playon Guest

    Samplitude!
     
    playon, Jul 9, 2004
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    TonyP Guest

    CD Architect is made by Sony/Sonic Foundry and is stand alone software.
    Wavelab does it all, whereas the Sony/SF package is Sound Forge + CD
    Architect.
    CD Architect has one real limitation compared to wavelab IMO, it still
    doesn't do CD-TEXT.

    TonyP.
     
    TonyP, Jul 9, 2004
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    Geoff Wood Guest


    I too vote for CD-Architect, at least for my level of 'mastering'. Great
    easy intuitive graphical layout, envelopes, levelling, fades etc, and DX
    chains per event as well as overall.

    geoff
     
    Geoff Wood, Jul 9, 2004
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