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http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/Atheist-bus-adverts-spark-complaint.4858903.jp

Stephen Green, national director of the fundamentalist Christian Voice ministry, complained to the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) yesterday, saying the adverts break the ASA's codes on substantiation and truthfulness.

"There is plenty of evidence for God, from people's personal experience, to the complexity, interdependence, beauty and design of the natural world."
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Um, no Mr Green, none of that constitutes evidence for god. And check out what "probably" means.
 
If he wasn't so unutterably stupid he could worry me!
How about a counter claim against churches that have billboards with 'Jesus Lives' plastered on them!!!!
 
So when are they going to sponsor

"There's probably no Allah.

Now stop jihading and enjoy life"



That would really impress me.
 
My personal opinion is that there is no evidence whatsoever for the existance of a God and therefore there cannot be any proof. There is however quite a lot of evidence for the existance of a fundamental radical who called himself Jesus.
 
I remember when I lived in newcastle - there was a church next to where a new dual carriageway was being built - and plastered outside the church was a sign -
'Don't bypass jesus'... !
 
There's probably no dog.
Now stop worrying and enjoy life.

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Bloody hell Bub these religious type already have a tenuous link on reality don't wind the up or they will explode.
 
these guys must be desperate to waste their time on nothing, will send them some playdough.. :)
 
spica said:
these guys must be desperate to waste their time on nothing, will send them some playdough.. :)
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Opposing religion may well be largely a waste of time, although one hopes not a total waste, but it really is the only humane option.
 
It is only a waste of time in liberal secular democracies where its power has been marginalised. There are people in the world, like our nutter Mr Green, who would like to make denial an offence.
 
The Devil said:
Opposing religion may well be largely a waste of time, although one hopes not a total waste, but it really is the only humane option.
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Would be that from another's angle i could be missing the point , but what is the ad saying and to who is it saying it..*there maybe no G^d so dont panic and chill out*..to me is like saying *there may be no tomorrow but don't worry..relax*, well no tomorrow is always a possibility for all and any, and when appreciated can help the individual to reach a peace within themselves that they then would hopefully pass on to others. The difference perhaps that the imagination fed by memories and the passing of time etc can have a reasonably high idea of that indeed..the sea we mostly all sail on will at some point materialize tomorrow, but if one has memories of yesterday that feed the imagination but that those feelings can structure nothing that *all can expect* and agree with - then the solid ground that to all is tomorrow, become's just as soft as the awareness of G^D - Which is why i think they are doing nothing with these bus ads other than attempting to upset the equilibrium of well spent listening sessions :)
 
Haselsh1 said:
My personal opinion is that there is no evidence whatsoever for the existance of a God and therefore there cannot be any proof. There is however quite a lot of evidence for the existance of a fundamental radical who called himself Jesus.
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the ad is good in that it is stimulating a lot of discussion about God. as the above quote says there is a lot of historical evidence for jesus. he said some pretty incredible things. He was either mad or what he said was true. if it wasn`t he was bad.
 
It may well be that Jesus was a real person. If the biblical gospels can be relied upon, and that's a pretty big "if", then he said some remarkably sensible things at times.

But then he also claimed to be the son of "god". Is it fair to say that anyone trying that on these days would be viewed with a certain amount of scepticism, and then referred on for treatment?
 
Oh I don't know, didn't he say we are all the children of God? Certain religions seem to focus only on parts of what he apparently said.
 
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Don't get me wrong... when I said there was quite a lot of evidence for a Jesus I was referring to archeological evidence and not the bible. The bible is neither evidence nor proof of anything. It is merely a book. If that is proof of existance then are we to assume that the Secret Seven were real...??? Let's face it, they also appear in print and must therefore, on that basis, be real. Let's keep things in perspective here. As I said, the bible is merely a book and therefore constitutues nothing in the way of proof or evidence.
 
I think we would have to discount a lot of what we accept of ancient history of the Greeks and earlier times, if we were to discount everything derived from books. Herodotus' histories, although flawed in parts, are a valuable source which we do not put on the same level as Secret Seven.

I think it also fair to say that Jesus' claim to be 'son of God' also attracted the same opposition from the establishment of his day. The Jewish authorities wanted him dead, the Romans were manipulated to the same end, even people from his hometown tried to kill him. His brothers and sisters thought he had gone mad.

I find it interesting that the attempts by the Jews to discredit him focus on how he performed miracles, not on whether he did perform them. The Talmud has many fanciful 'explanations' of where he got the power from to do the miracles.
Had he not done them, it would have been far easier to dispute the account.
 
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