Audiolab 6000CDT with NAD C368/388 Burr Brown DAC

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Hi,
Just seeing if anyone is using the superb Audiolab 6000CDT transport with one of NAD's amps with built-in DAC's such as the C368/C388/C658. What are your thoughts on the improvement in sound quality and what digital cables are you using?
I see that NAD are using the Burr Brown PCM1795 in the C368 Hybrid Digital DAC Amplifier, which is what I own. Nice DAC, but not overly spec'd.

Cheers,

Neil.
 
Yellow said:
Hi,
Just seeing if anyone is using the superb Audiolab 6000CDT transport with one of NAD's amps with built-in DAC's such as the C368/C388/C658. What are your thoughts on the improvement in sound quality and what digital cables are you using?
I see that NAD are using the Burr Brown PCM1795 in the C368 Hybrid Digital DAC Amplifier, which is what I own. Nice DAC, but not overly spec'd.

Cheers,

Neil.
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I'm using the Audiolab 6000a amplifier. Great match. Never thought much of the Marantz amp. Had a Marantz 5005, poor quaity. First amp was a N|AD, very good. Gave it to a friend, a musician.Now I have a disc stuck in my Audiolab 6000 CD Transport. It reads bad disc. Can I get this out without going back to the dealer?
 
Unplug the CD player from the mains, then you'll have to open it and manually try and extract the CD.
It may just be displaced, which will stop the player ejecting it normally. It's more complicated with your CD transport as it has a slot, rather like a car player rather than a drawer that comes out fully. You may have to apply mains power again with the box open to see what's happening, so take care where you put your fingers or any tools.

S.
 
Yellow said:
Hi,
Just seeing if anyone is using the superb Audiolab 6000CDT transport with one of NAD's amps with built-in DAC's such as the C368/C388/C658. What are your thoughts on the improvement in sound quality and what digital cables are you using?
I see that NAD are using the Burr Brown PCM1795 in the C368 Hybrid Digital DAC Amplifier, which is what I own. Nice DAC, but not overly spec'd.

Cheers,

Neil.
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Why would you think that the sound quality can be improved? CD players and amplifiers have both reached the point where they are transparent and no improvement in sound quality is possible, just different facilities or output power. ALL the improvements in sound quality will come from loudspeakers and/or the room acoustics.

As for what digital cables, I think that's your little joke, isn't it?

S.
 
Thanks. Before I saw your post I took a chance and used a blade of a penknife and managed to extract the cd. Fully operational again. I bought a pair of Wharfedale Evo 4.3. My amp audiolab 6000a is driving Monitor Audio Studio and Fyne F303. A clip is missing from one of the Wharfedales and although both speakers work my amp immediately goes to protection mode with the Wharfedales. Lovely speakers, 3 way but not fully functional. Should I query dealer about my amp or rewire? Maybe the missing clip is my problem. I have ordered a new clip. I would not use two different speakers from one amp or I may find myself with more problems. I will leave the Wharfedales to one side until I get the clip and then fingers crossed.
 
There are huge differences between amplifiers in sound quality and all sound at least slightly different from any other amp, ie they each have their own signature. CD players and DACs also can sound different from one another obviously. Cables only affect the sound when there is a technical reason for it. Almost everything published on hi fi forums and in the magazines on the subject of cables is total bollox (that's a technical term:D).
 
We disagree about that. I have NEVER heard a difference between amplifiers that wasn't obvious from the measurements. Since the late 1960s, amplifiers have measured as transparent, and have therefore sounded identical when used within their design parameters.

S
 
Yes we STRONGLY disagree about that! I consider the dissemination of a view that all amplifiers sound the same as disingenuous and simply wrong as the view that mains cables, interconnects etc can affect sound quality and therefore I will counter such "false news" in the same way as I would cable foo. On many other issues then fortunately we seem to agree....:)
 
Sergeauckland said:
Not sure what you mean by missing clip, and why the amp should go into protection. Any more information?

S
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I have been a while getting back. What I mean by a clip is the silver attachment on the back of the speakers connecting the red and black outlets (if I can call them outlets). I found the missing clip. Happy now as the speakers working perfectly. I purchased these Evo 4.3 for 999 euros, well worth it. Beautiful to listen to with a wide sweet spot and great soundstage. Even the highs that my Fyne Audio F303 didn't always handle well have settled. They have a dedicated mid range driver and a downward firing port. The port is on the base of the speakers. They are heavy and unwieldy to move around a room so settle for a particular spot in your listening room and stick with it. The Evo 4.4 seem too big to me. I have a big room (open plan) and am not fussy about placement around or close to walls. Lovely bass and mid range in any event. Highly recommend Evo 4.3. I am driving them with the Audiolab 6000a amplifier and have the Audiolab CDT 6000 for my cd collection. Listening to REM New Adventures in HIFI triple cd/dvd. Like listening to the album all over again. Feeling Groovy on Spotify sounds wonderful.
 
Sergeauckland said:
Unplug the CD player from the mains, then you'll have to open it and manually try and extract the CD.
It may just be displaced, which will stop the player ejecting it normally. It's more complicated with your CD transport as it has a slot, rather like a car player rather than a drawer that comes out fully. You may have to apply mains power again with the box open to see what's happening, so take care where you put your fingers or any tools.

S.
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I do not follow how that has answered my question. All I asked was......
 
Sergeauckland said:
Why would you think that the sound quality can be improved? CD players and amplifiers have both reached the point where they are transparent and no improvement in sound quality is possible, just different facilities or output power. ALL the improvements in sound quality will come from loudspeakers and/or the room acoustics.

As for what digital cables, I think that's your little joke, isn't it?

S.
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Sound quality is being improved all the time. Clearly you bought something a long time ago and think everything has stood still since? Are you suggesting a £500 1990s CD player sounds as good as a £20000 player from 2025…?
 
Of course it will. Why wouldn't it? Just look at the measurements. If there's an audible difference, it will become obvious from the numbers. Unless a CD player has DSP that alters the frequency response or applies dynamic EQ, then there can't be a difference in sound.

S.
 

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