AudioSmile Challange - Can you detect the AudioSmile DEQ?
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I was rather hoping more people would take part than this. The results are pretty meaningless right now. I'm going to re-start the test in a more simple and quick, 1 song ABX test.
Please, those of you that have taken part so far give the new one a go. Please! If you already have the downloads from this test it will be quick because I will use the same two first files from this test plus a third new one.
New test thread here - https://www.audio-forums.com/as-rediect/showthread.php?t=23393
Please, those of you that have taken part so far give the new one a go. Please! If you already have the downloads from this test it will be quick because I will use the same two first files from this test plus a third new one.
New test thread here - https://www.audio-forums.com/as-rediect/showthread.php?t=23393
the_young_once
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Ha, lucky I read to the end of the thread, was about to do some copying 
I am assuming, like RobHolt and Tenson already said, the logical thing is that passing through 2 rounds of processing should 'degrade' the music, so if that degradation is audible, the DEQ is not at the level it wants to be?
I was thinking, besides 'degradation', very broad term, how do you define it? Anyway, the DEQ could perhaps add some of its own colouration? Now everyone's bias, or liking is different? so, it may well be possible some may like whatever the DEQ adds on to the recording, never mind it being, how you say, not true to the actual anymore? :MILD:
I am assuming, like RobHolt and Tenson already said, the logical thing is that passing through 2 rounds of processing should 'degrade' the music, so if that degradation is audible, the DEQ is not at the level it wants to be?I was thinking, besides 'degradation', very broad term, how do you define it? Anyway, the DEQ could perhaps add some of its own colouration? Now everyone's bias, or liking is different? so, it may well be possible some may like whatever the DEQ adds on to the recording, never mind it being, how you say, not true to the actual anymore? :MILD:
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That opens up a very different set of arguments.
Do people like distortion?
I think so - sometimes, and would offer the fact that many like vinyl and a few like some technically poor valve amplifiers as my evidence.
Double digit THD isn't uncommon from vinyl particularly from TTs fitted with ancient cartridges. Some of the odder valve amplifiers certainly stamp strong character onto everything that passes through them.
Do people like distortion?
I think so - sometimes, and would offer the fact that many like vinyl and a few like some technically poor valve amplifiers as my evidence.
Double digit THD isn't uncommon from vinyl particularly from TTs fitted with ancient cartridges. Some of the odder valve amplifiers certainly stamp strong character onto everything that passes through them.
Yes Rob, I agree with you that most, if not all people like some for of harmonic distortion as it's hard/impossible to get away from it in designs terms. The THD levels maybe extremely low on all modern equipment BUT something other than THD modifies the overall balance of the equipment which is why most/all pieces of gear sound so different to others.
This DEQ test has shown that you can hear differences in the modded DEQ. The changes Tenson has made will add or subtract something in the signal, it's impossible for it not to. But as well as that the fact that the signal has to be decoded and then encoded MUST also do something to the signal. It's whether you like the outcome that matters.
Interestingly sample Y has been picked out by everyone so far.
I did my bit and listened to the samples and could definitely hear differences. Which ones I preferred is a different matter because to be honest I didn't like any of the samples - audio reproduction wise.
All samples run through a RME interface into my system.
This DEQ test has shown that you can hear differences in the modded DEQ. The changes Tenson has made will add or subtract something in the signal, it's impossible for it not to. But as well as that the fact that the signal has to be decoded and then encoded MUST also do something to the signal. It's whether you like the outcome that matters.
Interestingly sample Y has been picked out by everyone so far.
I did my bit and listened to the samples and could definitely hear differences. Which ones I preferred is a different matter because to be honest I didn't like any of the samples - audio reproduction wise.
All samples run through a RME interface into my system.
How can the test show anything when it hasn't been completed yet?
Agreed, but the question of importance is whether those changes are audible.
Except the 2 out of 7 people who didn't pick it.
Please have a go at the ABX test and see if you can really hear what you think you can.
Hi Tenson
the test is not like a voting system where you have to wait until the end to see the results. You can see some results already so....
the test is not like a voting system where you have to wait until the end to see the results. You can see some results already so....
because you can visually see it on the bar graph.
.... they must be if all the results in so far are different.
As percentages go it's already more than 50%
That question is pretty loaded as it says that I/we are hearing stuff that does not exist. The test results so far indicate otherwise.
