Computer Audio Bake-Off

Purite Audio said:
Does Jason/Figlet post on ZG, I would be interested to hear his server, my own experiments a few years back with a Lynx 16aes card weren't all that fruitful.
Keith.
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No, I am afraid you will have to talk to him at Subjectivist. And I hope you understand him, all this computer jargon just turns me crosseyed.

But the proof of all puddings is in the eating, and my first course was very good.
 
Richard: you really are using this forum to promote the new Figlet-inside £2000 NVA music server!

That makes so much more sense than you not noticing the obvious and well documented shortcomings of a £125 soundcard. I misjudged you: I honestly thought you were suffering from hearing loss . . . not a bit of it: you were playing the crowd. And very well, may I add: you totally got me.

Really, really special way to promote a double-standard, though.

I've not 'dissed' anything: I've been consistently transparent in my views: I didn't find the KingRex UD-01 SE (which I sell) appealing in that context, or the Cambridge DAC. I though the Xonar was surprisingly good, with evident flaws, and obviously the expensive DAC (which I don't sell) sounded best on the day. Not very controversial at all and only a tiny bit biased. "Every man likes the smell of his own farts" (Icelandic proverb, not a personal comment).
 
hubsand said:
Richard: you really are using this forum to promote the new Figlet-inside £2000 NVA music server!

That makes so much more sense than you not noticing the obvious and well documented shortcomings of a £125 soundcard. I misjudged you: I honestly thought you were suffering from hearing loss . . . not a bit of it: you were playing the crowd. And very well, may I add: you totally got me.

Really, really special way to promote a double-standard, though.

I've not 'dissed' anything: I've been consistently transparent in my views: I didn't find the KingRex UD-01 SE (which I sell) appealing in that context, or the Cambridge DAC. I though the Xonar was surprisingly good, with evident flaws, and obviously the expensive DAC (which I don't sell) sounded best on the day. Not very controversial at all and only a tiny bit biased. ââ'¬Å"Every man likes the smell of his own fartsââ'¬Â (Icelandic proverb, not a personal comment).
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This is complete bollocks and he doesn't mention the six posts of his I had to bin, which is why he is now doing it here.
 
Well, expensive in this context: it's an Audiocom-modded Benchmark DAC1: about £900 on top of the price of the stock unit. Via XLR (where the Bybees live) it's a touch more truthful/analytical than the £1250 Wyred 4 Sound DAC2. Over un-Bybee'd RCA, there's not a lot to choose between them.

So much depends on the input: 24/192 is excellent over USB on the DAC2, but the Benchmark sings when fed AES/EBU.
 
Richard Dunn said:
This is complete bollocks and he doesn't mention the six posts of his I had to bin, which is why he is now doing it here.
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Indeed, you gagged the merest hint of (tactfully expressed) candour on your own forum: that's the prerogative of a vanity project, and the habit of a tyrant. I won't debate further with you.
 
Richard Dunn said:
This is complete bollocks and he doesn't mention the six posts of his I had to bin, which is why he is now doing it here.
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It may be bollocks or not, but from the outside one can see his POV. Bake off organised, best in class declared, best in class now a business opportunity.
 
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Mods - you make a big thing of not bringing arguments from other forums the last few pages have been just that!
 
Richard Dunn said:
Mods - you make a big thing of not bringing arguments from other forums the last few pages have been just that!
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Well the bake off was announced on here as well so comments about the results and aftermath should be expected on here! Otherwise why use ZG to promote it?
 
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RobsterD said:
Intrigued,what was your hardware and software for playback ?
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We published the Version 1 recipe on our site about a year ago. Version 2 will be along shortly . . . although you can buy our DAT1, you can also build it yourself by following the recipe: no charge: spreading the joy.

For Linux, we favour Ubuntu / ALSA / Songbird.

For Windows the driver combination depends on the output, but always JRiver Media Centre running in Memory Play mode. I'm not saying it's the ultimate player in sonic terms, but I believe it's the best, useable one.

Jason was running this software configuration on Saturday. In fact, purely as a transport, Jason (Figlet)'s PC was really uncompromised. If NVA puts it into production they'll probably pair it with a much better DAC: either the RME or Lynx card or an offboard one with separate supply.
 
Difficult not to refer to the thread on Subjectivist in this case as the subject runs tandem with this, but please leave the arguments there.

Those at the event with have formed their own opinions and they should bank them and move on. If they came away entirely happy with the kit they own and feeling no desire to change (me) then great. If they heard something of interest and wish to develop that into a project (Richard) then again great.
Those bringing a range of kit (Mark) got the chance to give everyone a preview and that too is fine.

We've all now heard more kit than this time last week, met a few more enthusiasts and eaten Richards excellent curry :)
 
RobHolt said:
Those at the event with have formed their own opinions and they should bank them and move on. If they came away entirely happy with the kit they own and feeling no desire to change (me) then great. If they heard something of interest and wish to develop that into a project (Richard) then again great.
Those bringing a range of kit (Mark) got the chance to give everyone a preview and that too is fine.

We've all now heard more kit than this time last week, met a few more enthusiasts and eaten Richards excellent curry :)
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Exactly!
 
NVA Cubix

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Mescalito said:
Look, Richard is a past master at viral marketing. No one should be suprised if he uses fora to further his aims. Live with it.

Chris
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I think you've misunderstood what I was getting at here. It was about appeals to moderators in particular circumstances by a particular 'person'.
 
Richard Dunn said:
NVA Cubix

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Thanks, very interesting, are some of the drivers passive radiators ?

Interesting the results of the bake off too, everyone having different preferences to what sounded best (of more accurately what they liked the most!).

I think a lot of people are making computer audio unnecessarily complicated, a computer (maybe some kind of interface like a hiface) and a dac and your done!
 

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