Thanks, I have checked the link but dont see them,although to be honest I cant really be bothered making a set I am getting lazy.I thought about trying some of that RS components stuff and the anti cables.I stupidly got new speakers and moved my room so I need about 4m runs of single wire,I currently use Zu and I may end up just buying another set but I dont want to spend a small fortune.Thought about Merlin as they were pretty good when I had a lone of them and some on e bay jusy now.Thanks anyway.