micheal,
thanks for that. the 65k colours would be quite attractive i guess but as i don;t use the flip keypad 'real' buttons wouldn;t make any difference to me. i'd agree, they are surprisingly robust gadgets. certainly it's the only thing i'd consider changing my 800 for but at current prices it just isn;t worth it but if i had a boggo nokia i'd bite merlins arm off.
sorry for hi-jacking your thread merlin.
cheers
julian