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Found this on a mailing list I subscribe to, not scientific, but an interesting read:

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The Wall Street Journal



January 16, 2008



PORTALS

By LEE GOMES



If You're Not Insane About Sound, Maybe You Can Just Go Crazy

January 16, 2008; Page B1



If you had to choose between two sets of speaker cables, one costing a

few dollars and sounding fine, the other a few thousand dollars but

perhaps sounding slightly better, and you chose the second pair, then

you would have had a great time last week in Las Vegas.



The city's many goings-on included The Home Entertainment Show, an

audiophile trade show held in two small motels off the Strip.

Audiophiles, as you probably know, are the hi-fi zealots who think

nothing of spending $50,000 on a turntable. I've learned over the

years that audiophiles actually come in two varieties: the totally

insane and the merely crazy.



The latter have a sense of humor and shrug that theirs is just one of

many hobbies -- like wine -- for people with money, expansive

vocabularies and the ability to discern differences lost on the rest

of us.



By contrast, my interests involve the extent to which beliefs

influence perceptions. Scientists have discovered that brain scans of

wine drinkers show they physically enjoy a wine more if they think it

is expensive. Can audiophiles really hear all the differences they say

they can, without being influenced by the brand or price of their

equipment?



To find out, Portals became an official exhibitor at T.H.E. Show last

week. I set up a room with two sound systems, identical except for one

component. Everything except the speakers was hidden behind screens.

(A shout-out to Totem Acoustics for the Forest speakers loan and to

Magnum Dynalab for the MD-308 amps. They all sounded sensational.)



With the same music playing on both, participants used a remote

control to switch between the two, and then tell me which sounded better.



One of the tests compared a high-quality MP3 file from an iPod with a

CD on a $3,000 player. Three-quarters of the 24 people taking this

test preferred the CD.



That was no surprise. However, when I played .wav files on the iPod --

these are digital but uncompressed files; I was connecting the

headphone jack to the amplifier -- 52% of the 21 who took this test

preferred the iPod.



That made me smile, not because snooty audiophiles got the "wrong"

answer, but because it suggests great sound can come from popular,

cheap gear.



I also tested speaker cables, which are controversial even among

audiophiles. Some spend tens of thousands of dollars on cabling, while

others consider it an absurd waste of money.



Using two identical CD players, I tested a $2,000, eight-foot pair of

Sigma Retro Gold cables from Monster Cable, which are as thick as your

thumb, against 14-gauge, hardware-store speaker cable. Many

audiophiles say they are equally good. I couldn't hear a difference

and was a wee bit suspicious that anyone else could. But of the 39

people who took this test, 61% said they preferred the expensive cable.



That may not be much of a margin for two products with such

drastically different prices, but I was struck by how the

best-informed people at the show -- like John Atkinson and Michael

Fremer of Stereophile Magazine -- easily picked the expensive cable.



Its sound was described as "richer," "crisper" and "more coherent."

Like some wines, come to think of it.



In absolute terms, though, the differences weren't great. Mr. Atkinson

guesstimated the expensive cables sounded roughly 5% better. Remember,

by definition, an audiophile is one who will bear any burden, pay any

price, to get even a tiny improvement in sound.



Attendance at the show was disappointing, so I didn't get the numbers

of participants I wanted. Even if I had, I'm not sure I would have

settled anything. These "A-B" tests have limits, including the fact

that differences you might not pick up right away can become more

apparent with extended listening.



Skeptics out there might think I've gone all mushy and credulous on them.



Not so.



Consider the thriving audiophile product category of power-line

conditioners, said to remove noise and distortions caused by your

electrical supply, a problem you may not realize you have. A rep from

Audience LLC accepted my invitation for an A-B test of the company's

$2,800 AdeptResponse aR6 conditioner.



He picked the system using his conditioner -- the other was plugged

into the wall -- two out of three times.



Note that the aforementioned "merely crazy" audiophiles say that while

they might have home setups costing six figures, the rest of us can

get splendid sound for under $1,000 by shopping at specialty audio

shops, the sort that sell unfamiliar brands.



I can't help you with brands, but my tests suggest you might want to

do your ripping as .wav files. While they take up a lot more room than

MP3s, falling disk prices make this feasible even for big collections.



As for cables, good ones can cost well under $2,000. I'd still be

happy at the hardware store, but you may be the golden-ear sort who

can hear a difference. As in "Dirty Harry," you've got to ask

yourself, "Do I feel lucky?"



Well, do you?



Write to Lee Gomes at [email protected]1

URL for this article:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120044692027492991.html
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with monster cable i'm surprised anyone expressed a preference.

with the ipod maybe the hard disc pathway makes up for headphone jack...cpmpared to the cd's none perfect read.
 
It's unfortunate he doesn't specify the bitrate of the MP3 and the decoder used, both which make such a difference.

A casual reader could misadvertantly get the impression Wav = good, Mp3 = baaad.


mooooo
 
they'd be correct in that assumption. mp3 not quite as good wav better.
 
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