Moon Landing .

In the alternative universe inhabited by some the moon landings never happened.
 
Last time i was there things had rapidly gone downhill. Far too many tourists these days, nothing like it was in the 70s
 
I've always been a bit unsure if the moon landings did exist but always tended believe it must be true. In the last few days I have been doing a lot of reading about the moon landings and I am now 99% convinced it was real.

People that doubt it deseved to be punched and this guy is the man to do it.

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amazingtrade said:
I've always been a bit unsure if the moon landings did exist but always tended believe it must be true. In the last few days I have been doing a lot of reading about the moon landings and I am now 99% convinced it was real.
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that's nice... this is real too :)

 
And the processing power of a modern plane like a 777 is powered by a 16MHz 80386 chip! The operations inflight computers have to do is quite simple. The fact that the moon landing guidance computer only ran at 2Mhz dosn't proof anything.
 
amazingtrade said:
And the processing power of a modern plane like a 777 is powered by a 16MHz 80386 chip! The operations inflight computers have to do is quite simple. The fact that the moon landing guidance computer only ran at 2Mhz dosn't proof anything.
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Ok...if it could do it's job ! Quote: the idea, to develop a system that can control a 13,000 kg spaceship, orbiting at 3,500 kilometres per hour around the moon, land it safely within metres of a specified location and guide it back from the surface to rendezvous with a command ship in lunar orbit. The system has to work the first time, and minimise fuel consumption because the spacecraft only contains enough fuel for one landing attempt.

Do this with a computer that has barely 5,000 primitive integrated circuits, weighs 30 kg and costs over $150,000. In order to store your software, the computer doesn't have a disk drive, only 74 kilobytes of memory that has been literally hard-wired, and all of 4 Kb of something that is sort of like RAM.

also the many primitive systems involved in the NASA Earth Operation, functioning perfectly and receiving data from the craft's onboard computer without anomalies or opposition, and it ran like clockwork.



Furbme to the Moon...let me swim amongst etc etc :)
 
Are you sure it only had 4K ROM? If it did with pure machine code I am sure it could be done. All the computer really has to is process data it gets from sensors. I am sure you could really do this 4096 bytes. Not quite the same thing but when ever I get my C64 out I am also very very impressed with what they could fit in 64K RAM.
 
The ROM was actually 36k

Specifications:
Instruction Set: Approximately 20 instructions;
100 noun-verb pairs, data up to triple-precision
Word Length: 16 bits (14 bits + sign + parity)
Memory: ROM (rope core) 36K words; RAM (core) 2K words
Disk: None
I/O: DSKY (two per spacecraft)
Performance: approx. Add time - 20us
Basic machine cycle: 2.048 MHz
Technology: RTL bipolar logic (flat pack)
Size: AGC - 24" x 12.5" x 6" (HWD); DSKY - 8" x 8" x 7" (HWD)
Weight: AGC - 70 lbs; DSKY - 17.5 lbs
Number produced: AGC - 75; DSKY: 138
Cost: Unknown.
Power consumption: Operating: 70W @ 28VDC; Standby 15.0 watts
 
Quote : only 74 kilobytes of memory that has been literally hard-wired *and all of 4 Kb of something that is sort of like RAM*.

Apollo Guidance Computer (AGC):
' How to build one in your basement ' :)

all the details here AT.

http://klabs.org/history/build_agc/index.htm

though said before....and i would think, Michael jacko got nearer to a Moonwalk than any of the dudes did in the 69 Apollo 11 :)
 
Probably done apart from that massive database so that the CIA would have to use in order to keep track of all the 10000's of people they would have to kill in order to keep the hoax a secret.
 
so...weren't russia ahead of the spacerace at this point..? then all of a sudden the US were able to put a man on the moon..? Hmm...

tho, I don't think putting man on the moon was that hard - I suspect getting off it again would have been very hard...maybe they left them to die and neil armstrong and the subsquent dodgy footage etc were used for the aftermath / PR etc..?
 
mr cat said:
so...weren't russia ahead of the spacerace at this point..? then all of a sudden the US were able to put a man on the moon..? Hmm...
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Not sure about that. Did you ever see footage of the capsule they planned to send the cosmonauts there in. It had handles and stuff like a steam train to control it. A documentary team got in to see it in the early 90's after the cold war ended.
 
it has been quite an issue these days...many do believe that i never happen...but i beg to disagree, i think its real.
 
The Americans were well ahead by the mid 60's. They may have started off behind but when it comes to Aerospace the Americans and the Brits led the world, the Rusians mostly just cloned western stuff.

Also even Russia never denied the moon landings were real even though they had every reason to.
 

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