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Just imagine. We put a thick carpet to please our f...:JOEL:.. neighbours. This carper covers now a marvelous new oak floor, which we still hope to see again one day. So spikes through the carpet is a no-no. So far the speakers stand on large stone plinths laying on the carpet, wobbling like bad teeth, and I do not like the effect at all. Any bright ideas? :confused:
 
Nomoretweaks said:
Just imagine. We put a thick carpet to please our f...:JOEL:.. neighbours. This carper covers now a marvelous new oak floor, which we still hope to see again one day. So spikes through the carpet is a no-no. So far the speakers stand on large stone plinths laying on the carpet, wobbling like bad teeth, and I do not like the effect at all. Any bright ideas? :confused:
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YOu won't, a wobbly plinth isn't going to help much.

I set three spikes into a paving slab for each speaker. I your case you would need to use metal discs to protect your floor.
 
Hi, spikes won't damage your new carpet at all. They'll go clean through the weave. When you remove them, you'll never know the carpet has been spiked.

Paving slabs, on the other hand, will damage your carpet, leaving it flattened. It may never regain its proper pile.

Graham.
 
Guys, just read carefully please! I know spikes won't damage the carpet. It's not about the carpet. The problem is - they will damage the wooden floor UNDER the carpet. And I can not use metal disks because they need to be put on the floor under the carpet. I can not crawl under the carpet - it is wall to wall. And even if I lift the carpet? put the discs on the floor, put the carpet back and then manage to put the spikes through the carpet exacatly into the discs, I won't be able to move the speakers at all later on. Wooden spikes do not pearce through the carpet so no use at all. As well as RDC cones which are much better by the way. The only solution is as far as I can se - really large and heavy slab. I have got a pair 40x40 - still no good. And my speakers are on 3 cones into the slabs which just lay on the carpet which means - wobbling.
Any BRIGHT ideas? :)
 
Arrowhead said:
Hi, spikes won't damage your new carpet at all. They'll go clean through the weave. When you remove them, you'll never know the carpet has been spiked.
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true enough


Arrowhead said:
Paving slabs, on the other hand, will damage your carpet, leaving it flattened. It may never regain its proper pile.

Graham.
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No they won't, not if you drill holes for them and mount them in the holes.




"The problem is - they will damage the wooden floor UNDER the carpet."

yes


"And I can not use metal disks because they need to be put on the floor under the carpet. I can not crawl under the carpet - it is wall to wall. "

The only way I could see to avoid this was to carefully cut the carpet near the plinth. A brand new/cherished carpet?

Not sure!

Anyone?

"And even if I lift the carpet? put the discs on the floor, put the carpet back and then manage to put the spikes through the carpet exacatly into the discs, I won't be able to move the speakers at all later on."

a common enough problem i think!


"Wooden spikes do not pearce through the carpet so no use at all"


agreed



:)



"Any BRIGHT ideas? "


charming!

......no.
 
what about putting nordost pulsar points which screw in and are pretty solid. I can`t quite follow why they wobble on a slab. my floor standers are on a granite sandwich with no spikes and although there is some movement it is ok.
if you are very rich you could try the townshend speaker supports [£800!!]
 
hifinutt said:
I can`t quite follow why they wobble on a slab.
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Sorry if I did not explain it properly.
It's not that the speakers wobble on the slabs. Slabs wobble because they lay on the carpet. And the carpet is quite thick. You may not believe it, but if you put a slab directly on the carpet, it is not stable, even a big and heavy one. It may look stable, but if you put a speaker on that slab and push it just slightly, it will wobble.


The only solution I can think about now is to put some spikes with wide bases on the floor under the carper, bases down and sharp ends up (oops). Then put back the carpet. The spikes will pierce through the carpet and ( preferably before I step on it) I put slabs on these spikes. Potentially dangerous, but stable and it will not damage the floor. And I will need some short thin spikes with wide base. How about that?
 
bottleneck said:
cant you just blue tac them onto the plinth?
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I can glue them onto the plinth with a superglue - it will not help, because the speakers wobble together with the plinths. The problem is not how to put the speakers on the plinths , it is how to stop the plinths ( aka slabs) wobbling.
 
Hi mate Its a simple answer. Buy a Gun . Pop next door and shoot the Neighbours. Rap them up in your new carpet and dump them in a river. there you go. Nice wood floor back and speaker placement problem resolved
 
well I am stumped! apart from getting wall mounted speakers I`ve run out of ideas. do you have another room you could convert to a listening room otherwise it is going to be getting rid of the carpet and trying some acoustic foam bases which a fellow forum member[another forum] is currently piloting.
 
Dev said:
I'd try this. Having the plinth resting on 3 points rather than a carpet and underlay should be more stable. Relatively cheap too.
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I have tried, does not work either. I am actually thinking now of putting some thin granit plinths under the carpet.
 
barty said:
Hi mate Its a simple answer. Buy a Gun . Pop next door and shoot the Neighbours. Rap them up in your new carpet and dump them in a river. there you go. Nice wood floor back and speaker placement problem resolved
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This is he best idea so far.
 
Interesting situation. I guess speaker stability is probably more important to you than some slight damage to your carpet pile. If this is the case try some seriously heavy stone slabs, which should be stable enough. Do you have heavy cabinets on your speakers or some lightweight design?
I have used 6 inch marble blocks under my speakers (speakers weigh about 45kg each and are 1.2 metres high approx.) I never had super thick carpet though.
Alternatively you could try spikes resting on furniture cups which may be more stable than a thin stone slab. 3 spikes makes sense.
 
Nomoretweaks said:
Just imagine. We put a thick carpet to please our f...:JOEL:.. neighbours. This carper covers now a marvelous new oak floor, which we still hope to see again one day. So spikes through the carpet is a no-no. So far the speakers stand on large stone plinths laying on the carpet, wobbling like bad teeth, and I do not like the effect at all. Any bright ideas? :confused:
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Hi,
I can't help thinking you're worrying unnecessarily about a few spikes into the timber-wood ages better with the knocks and if (later)your better half is concerned about the marks you can easily fill sand and re-varnish.IMHO:)
Bummer to have sensitive neighbours tho'
 
buy heavier speakers. 200lb per box won't wobble. tannoy FSM or so would do the job nice. actually they don't need plinths, cones or whatsoever tweakery.
 
cooky1257 said:
Hi,
I can't help thinking you're worrying unnecessarily about a few spikes into the timber-wood ages better with the knocks and if (later)your better half is concerned about the marks you can easily fill sand and re-varnish.IMHO:)
Bummer to have sensitive neighbours tho'
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I agree - you won't see the spike marks anyway, because they'll be covered up by the horrid carpet. If you do eventually lift the carpet (when you cease to have neighbours, following the carrying out of the gun suggestion, perhaps), you'll have a few very small holes to fill.

Get them speakers stuck into the floor and sod it.

Then again, it's not my floor....:)

Happy New Year

Martin
 

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