Save ZG!!

Tones posts mostly back on HFC, with the occassional post on the Quad Yahoo group, but never on Classical. Haven't seen RdS for years and GrahamN doesn't bother with HiFi forums at all, and sticks with his skiing friends. Titian mainly posts in the German forums these days as he feels this forum isn't a friendly place anymore (see above)
 
Cocky1257, I see you just don't get it, and your posts are bound to encourage a whole new wave of posters, especially those that don't speak English, so in the vernacular of the kids now a days "Whatever"
 
Only a small minority are interested diy and vintage - I fear leaning that direction might just put even more people off.

RobHolt said:
Nick, that's very down-beat for you.
You sound like old Dickie Doo-dar over on Pink :)

I think places like ZG and pfm will be less effected by general industry decline if the make some subtle changes as outlined earlier, mainly by Joel.
More focus on good vintage and DIY stuff makes what happens in the big bad world largely irrelevant. The Hi-Fi Choice forum and manufacturer tied boards such as Naim can worry about that.
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lordsummit said:
cooky I've got to say you're not offering much at the minute. Lee on the other hand has been around for years.
You don't seem to understand that the issue the mod team has had on this forum is a lack of pleasantness, exactly as Lee has described. That post is symptomatic of that.
I'm glad Lee, Rob, Joel and others are making helpful, constructive suggestions. Their contributions over the 10 years or so I've known them online have been invaluable to many. As Titian says we need to get back to the friendly forum we used to be. Stop the bickering, and certainly lose the alpha male persona's that some people adopt.
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No doubt to respond to this will bring accusations of Alpha male behaviour but here goes.
1.So accusing members of whinging isn't considered unpleasant and unhelpful but objecting to it is.
2.To be first to suggest the following changes; a clean slate year zero fresh tart , a Vintage hifi section, design change, an old mag section etc is considered unconstructive and unhelpful but to agree with them gets a pat on the back.
If I'm accused of being part of the problem I 'm entitled to respond and the length of time 'you've' known someone should have bugger all to do with it.
The elephant in the room is that the mods allowed this place to get out of control-allowing friendships to cloud their judgement-modding wasn't even handed and some very rude and pffensive people were allowed far too much leeway.
I thought Zanash was unhelpful with the 'stop whinging' comment and said so, precisely on the grounds of the 'unpleasantness' you allude to.
regards
Cooky
 
LiloLee said:
, I see you just don't get it, and your posts are bound to encourage a whole new wave of posters, especially those that don't speak English, so in the vernacular of the kids now a days "Whatever"
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Lee,
I get the impression you are just picking on me now.
I do get 'it' and was only expressing 'it' by objecting to the 'stop whinging' remark..
I'd be interested in reading your suggestions for encouraging non english speaking members.
And it's cooky not cocky but o and c are close together on the keyboard I suppose.
Regards
Cooky
 
Let it go dudes, let it go.

I watch more often than post because I don't often have that much to add. Well, that and my system has been in boxes for a few months.

I do remember when I first registered that there was a lot more going on but most people have other (better?) things to do. People like WM who has a lot to add also has a business to run, and other knowledgable folk have left or post less. There's only so much talking about something that you can do before you have to actually take part in the relevant activity. In this case that is listening to music.

The only thing which puts me off is extended semantics-related discussions which inevitably descend into acrimony. Sometimes it's best just to leave it.

I still check nearly every day and go through short phases of posting a fair bit. I don't think there is too much wrong with the forum; although I would echo the sentiment that maybe some of us less frequent contributors should post more often.

I like the way the site looks and also think that it's pretty friendly too.


P.S. Lee, the amp is still great.
 
scott_01 said:
Let it go dudes, let it go.

I watch more often than post because I don't often have that much to add. Well, that and my system has been in boxes for a few months.

I do remember when I first registered that there was a lot more going on but most people have other (better?) things to do. People like WM who has a lot to add also has a business to run, and other knowledgable folk have left or post less. There's only so much talking about something that you can do before you have to actually take part in the relevant activity. In this case that is listening to music.

The only thing which puts me off is extended semantics-related discussions which inevitably descend into acrimony. Sometimes it's best just to leave it.

I still check nearly every day and go through short phases of posting a fair bit. I don't think there is too much wrong with the forum; although I would echo the sentiment that maybe some of us less frequent contributors should post more often.

I like the way the site looks and also think that it's pretty friendly too.


P.S. Lee, the amp is still great.
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Consider it done.
Cooky
 
too much slating and back biting going on thats why no one is posting use your ears for a change not your mouths or mind
looking forward to a reformed forum with more sensible posting.
cheers all
jon
 
hi-fi evangelis said:
too much slating and back biting going on thats why no one is posting use your ears for a change not your mouths or mind
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Not at all IMO, 99.9% of posts are friendly and good humoured with only the occasional misunderstanding or misinterpretation (sometimes deliberate ;)) the cause of temporarily ruffled feathers. Of course there's disagreement sometimes, it wouldn't be right if there wasn't, and obviously we can like different things, so what?! I don't think there's a crisis, ZG will live on, we're all still here and this thread shows that most people at least still visit the site. Chill :cool:.
 
Cooky has made nearly 500 posts in less than a year. I think that gives him plenty of right to voice his opinion however strong it may be.
Simply saying post more does not help.
There are reasons why people are not posting very much on here which need to be addressed.
If not, ZG becomes a graveyard.
 
LiloLee said:
Tones posts mostly back on HFC, with the occassional post on the Quad Yahoo group, but never on Classical. Haven't seen RdS for years and GrahamN doesn't bother with HiFi forums at all, and sticks with his skiing friends. Titian mainly posts in the German forums these days as he feels this forum isn't a friendly place anymore (see above)
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Present, sir. I actually don't post very much any more anywhere, because, with the arrival of the ESL 57s, I am completely happy with what I have, and I only buy stuff when something breaks down. I have said everything that I want to say on cables, etc., so I simply steer clear of such threads. So, on matters hi-fi, as I have nothing to say, I say nothing.

I still keep my Bach cantata thread going (an enduring passion, so to speak).

Rodrigo (RdS) is very busy (he's now a full professor in the University of Lisbon), and he has had some health problems recently - and of course he'd much rather play his harpsichord than listen to other people do it!

I do miss GrahamN - nobody was better informed on romantic music.
 
In my case, the things that interest me don't seem to be of interest to people who post on this forum, so I don't bother posting about them.

I never read the cable threads - in fact, if I'm honest, I don't read most of the threads.
 
YNMOAN said:
In my case, the things that interest me don't seem to be of interest to people who post on this forum, so I don't bother posting about them.

I never read the cable threads - in fact, if I'm honest, I don't read most of the threads.
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So what does interest you?

You might find lots of other people agree.
 

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