Single ended valve poweramp

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Guys,

I am considering selling my PMC's and going DIY. If I did, I would need an amp to drive the tweeters.

Are there any single ended valve amps out there for between £600-1000?? Preferably with more than 30watts? If not single ended then very low distortion (especially IMD).

Otherwise are there any pure class A SS power-amps out there for this money?
 
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Hicam have got a Threshold s300 for £800. It's been reincarnated as the Usher A class amp (£1500), which Davewhityetagain on wigwam seems to be very pleased with. Ignore the fact they reckon it's £4000 new as the list price was $2000 in the US, so a bit of haggling might be on.
 
If you're talking about valve amps tenson, I'd think the answer to be 'no'.

The problem being ''SET'' and ''30w''.

Hard figures to marry at any price, nevermind £800.
 
Tenson, with regard to priorities, if you're thinking about exploring SET's, you'd better prepare to invest in something larger and much more sensitive than PMC monitors!!

And as bottleneck said - you'd be looking at 25wpc max from an SET. Your budget limits you to Chinese equipment (i.e. Ming-da transmitter amps like the 211/805/845 offerings).

300B SET's usually have 8-12wpc. You'll need some seriously efficient speakers to use these though.

Question is though, do you really want 100-litre cabs in your lounge?

DT
 
Tenson said:
Guys,

I am considering selling my PMC's and going DIY. If I did, I would need an amp to drive the tweeters.

Are there any single ended valve amps out there for between £600-1000?? Preferably with more than 30watts? If not single ended then very low distortion (especially IMD).

Otherwise are there any pure class A SS power-amps out there for this money?
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Tenson - I'm surprised!! Have you had a recent experience to steer you away from the active PMC's?

There appears to be a couple of Class A options on the cattylink site for that kind of money, they're of interest to me.

Have you specific speakers in mind?
G
 
Dynamic Turtle said:
300B SET's usually have 8-12wpc. You'll need some seriously efficient speakers to use these though.

Question is though, do you really want 100-litre cabs in your lounge?

DT
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10-15 wpc will drive 89dB perfectly happily its just a matter of matching- you need a nice impedance load. Plenty of monitors that will do it, no need at all for 100 litre cabs. If I had £1K I'd go with something like the Loftin White 2A3 kit from Bluebell (about 3-4wpc) then build some open baffles or something which should be around 98dB. Loftin White is a lovely amp, music music and more music. Or a 211 something or other, your spoilt for choice at that price with the chinese ones. Also 845 but I prefer 211, not as dark sounding. You'll maybe get 20W ish but more realistically 15, depends on quality really. Alot of the chinese ones benefit from some fiddling out of the box but you've got plenty of cash for that. Lots on the world designs site about that sort of thing. To get 30W+ your looking at some seriously scary tubes (gm100) and seriously scary voltages to boot which just aren't practical to use.
 
wadia-miester said:
Thorsten has got to him at an early age :D
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Haha, you are correct!

I have had no experience to drive me away from the active PMC's they are wonderful. I simply think I can build better, and it will be fun!

I only want the amp for the tweeters of an active set-up. I think I will go for a pure class A SS amp. I just remembered there is a stack of 20 or so little Class A amps sitting just outside the toilet at JJ's! Maybe I can snag a couple at a good price.

The reason I thought valves at first was because I was surprised how well Titians system worked using valves for the main speakers and Krell for the subs. Maybe it is only worth doing if you can spend £16K a pair though!

For the woofers I am just going for something cheap with lots of power. The Behringer A500 seemed good - 250watts per side. I may upgrade ot later if I have more money.

WM, one system I was surprised about at the show was Pedro's on the 2nd floor. It had Martin Logan speakers. Apparently the system only cost £10K but it sounded very good. It may have been the choice of material though.

I liked yours and Steve's system very much. It was really enjoyable to listen too, but a bit soft for my taste. I can see why a lot of people would love it.
 
Simon,
Steve's speakers give a sound that he's engineered into them.
They will never be a pa rig, however they make some pleasing in an unfussed and very musical & UNFATUGING way.
WE really needed the 30wpc Soul power amp to help with the lack of headroom.
The Coherent Systems room at Bristol will demostrate on what is Truely possible with redbook, nothing at the Manchester show came close In OUR Opinion.
But I have to say we did enjoy oursleves and the people were actually REAL music lovers for the most part. T.
 
When using different amps for bi-amping as you are suggestion be aware of the different gain each amp may have, the input sensitivity, the input impedence and also the phase coherence between them. You could seriously screw up the 'speaker balance if you don't get these correct.
 
Hi Simon,

You really don't need anything like 30w to drive tweeters under domestic conditions. To give you some idea, my 40w class A tube amp never gets above 1w full range into 96db horns in my room - and 1w is bloody loud!

In fact 5-10w should be more than ample so if you want to try tubes there are plenty of options. I personally feel that over complicating amplification and mixing different topologies is not the way to go, but the journey can be fun :)

Rob.
 

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