SME 3009S2 + MC = Happiness

RobHolt

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I've been itching for a TT change for some time, or more specifically I've been hankering after a return to the TT I used about 10 years ago and which I regret selling.

Nothing wrong with my P9 which sounds as good as I could wish, but these days I tend to base a decision to own things on looks, engineering, company reputation/respect in addition to performance. I've always loved the look of the Gyro so bought the one you see here from David Wren at Raddlet Audio, who provided excellent service as usual.

For the arm I'd intended to use my Mission 774 but part of the reason for changing deck was a desire to experiment easily with different cartridges, which directed my attention towards arms with SME fit shells and the 3009 S2 in particular.

A recent visit to Tony L allowed me to look closely as several different versions, from the original S2 to the later Improved. Tony should write a book on SME arms since he's done his homework :) and the discussion was very useful.

Backtracking slightly, to around 1981/2 in fact, I'd come across the 3009 before and not been that impressed. However at that time I'd no idea of the version history, and with hindsight it's all too clear now why putting a low compliance Mission MC into what was a fixed head low mass S2 Imp wasn't going to work well, which it didn't.

So armed with a little more knowledge I managed to source an early 3009 S2 from dealer Infidelity, and again I had excellent service and advice. It's actually a very early 'split counterweight' S2 and other than for some dirt it was in fine shape.
I spent a day stripping down and cleaning it, and made a new arm cable which I decided to solder directly to the SME terminal block and bypass the large vertical plug and socket.

I wasn't sure what to expect when fitting the AT33PTG but the result came as quite a surprise. Tracking is superb - it flies through an Ortofon torture test without a murmur and it sounds secure in the groove. In fact the AT33 sounds just like.....well an AT33. The presentation is a little richer than with the Rega but there are absolutely no signs that the arm is not handing the cartridge correctly - quite the opposite!

No doubt the lower mass 'Improved' versions are also fine when properly matched.

So I've completely revised my opinion of these arms.
The regular S2 is most certainly MC capable and their is nothing remotely odd about the sonics. I've got a FD200 damper kit arriving shortly so will update once that gets fitted.

Needledrops to follow shortly:

The obligatory pron:


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Some needle drops:

http://www.mediafire.com/?4y5617zqixl713f

http://www.mediafire.com/?mau08d671cywln6

http://www.mediafire.com/?3si1zla5sp3pou1
 
Looks lovely. Always liked the Gyrodec, had one in the late '80s.

By the way, completely agree that the SME is fine for MC cartridges. The SPU in its headshell was intended to partner the SME.

Many MC cartridges are heavy enough on their own to provide enough mass to work in an SME S2, and even if they're not, adding additional mass is very easy.

S.
 
It looks great, I think the best looking TT!

What is a damper kit?

The back acrylic base looks good too :) Where did you get it, and did they polish the edges?
 
I downloaded 'NR' Nappy Roots and it works for me. However I think Rob copied it from a CD as I can't hear any clicks or pops.
 
Your needledrops have come over all 'copyright protected do you want to buy the track from Amazon'. Some clever technology might be going on there...

Paul

Paul that's interesting - I hadn't realised.
Might be a new feature on mediafire but I'll investigate.

I downloaded 'NR' Nappy Roots and it works for me. However I think Rob copied it from a CD as I can't hear any clicks or pops.

Definitely the vinyl, and not even de-clicked.

The damper is a bolt on accessory which allows the arm motion to be fluid damped, with viscosity judged such that very slow arm motion is unimpeded but everything above a few Hertz is damped.

The black acrylic came from SRM sold as a 'Silent Base' and comes with stick on sorothane feet for freestanding use. Yes they did polish the edges very nicely :)
Given the price of raw acrylic £55 is quite a good price.
 
FD200 damper now fitted:


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Here's a level matched comparison of one of the tracks above with and without the damper operating:

http://www.mediafire.com/?bfqz3bbu59xbry8

http://www.mediafire.com/?mfvpomm4f6dwpew

...and some Sting for the hell of it :)

http://www.mediafire.com/?l9u70ra2hu42c4l
 
Whenever I see pictures which include the 34/FM4/405 Quad electronics I always admire their beauty and wonderful ergonomics and wish they were still around under UK ownership and management.
 
There's something just so right about that series of Quad equipment. I preferred the beige, but the grey was fine too. I don't think there's ever been HiFi better presented.

S.
 
Serge, on reflection I'd agree with that to a greater extent.

Quad always did industrial design just right; an elegant and beautifully clear and clean interface, just sufficient to the function yet ..distinct, never a product of the parts bin. It's a deeply-considered kind of Classically-inspired Minimalism.

I have, use and love these two for this reason; it takes a lot of effort to make something look this simple. They also still sound pretty good too :)

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)I've also 405-2 around somewhere ..just because ;) ]
 
Wow, thanks for the pics, Rob. Wish I didn't have to sell my Gyro Mk V (had a reconditioned Zeta arm, DL110 and Tom Evans PS). I do have a Transcriptors Saturn sitting in a box somewhere which I will set up once the kids allow me - not nearly as good musically, but visually nice.
 

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