£150 Parking Permit

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Glasgow council is proposing to impose Residential Parking Permit and Parking Fee to the my residential area from this summer. I wonder if you could tell me if your city charge such a fee how much is it as I think a fee of £150 per year per car is very high, compare even to most areas in London.

If this reduce the level of cars filling up the road in an area just outside the city centre then it should be a good thing. My suspicion is at the end of the day this will have no effect what so ever. Most people seem to like to drive to work in an area that always have good public transport like bus, trains and a small underground tube. Wish they bring back the trams as most cities in Europe that I have visited appear to have blessed from it.

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I think a fairer thing would be to tax people more for second cars. Where I live most people seem to get the bus into work but then there buses are every couple of minutes it takes between 20-30 minutes it takes longer to drive as you it takes for ever to park and you get stuck in traffic.

Its getting a bit stupid where I live now, its much worse than it was two or three years ago.
 
I have a colleague who lives in Edinburgh city centre, has to pay for a permit, but there are more permits than spaces, bit of a con, if he gets in late or there are no spaces, he has to move the car before 8am or he gets a ticket, has had £600 worht of tickets in the last 6 months.

Why not move to the sububrs wolfie, the west end is overrated, theres allways Bearsden, Milngavie, old Drumchapel, Bishopbriggs even. I think they are taking the piss as you live in an affluent area and a lot will pay it w/out batting an eyelid.
 
Thanks for your thoughts guys. After I quick google I am beginning to wonder whether they are taking the piss charging twice as much the going rate of central London. The main reason I decided to stay in the Westend is because I could in the past walk to work or take the public transport everyway including easy assess to things like the RNSO. I don't work here now. Those places you mentioned or even Paisley are looking very much more attractive by the day.
 
I was brought up in Bishopbriggs, so am not a "paisley buddie", which has a bit of a stigma attached to it, but since moving here, I haven't looked back, and I made a whole lot of great friends over here, the west end is overrrated, guess a trip to an estate agent is on the cards :)
 
amazingtrade said:
I think a fairer thing would be to tax people more for second cars.
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...and second homes...

Back to cars though - Exeter is awful for it these days; if ANY city other than London could use a congestion charge, it's there. Apparently (according to my housemate) it's now the most polluted city in the UK; something to do with only 5 main roads (all single carriageway) in, and almost constant gridlock in the Heavitree area (where I live). In summer you can't even breathe properly...

I don't HATE cars, but I wish the oil/car companies would stop bedding each other, wake up, and smell the coffee. Other technologies to the internal combustion engine exist you know...
 
Brighton and Hove council did this to the area I lived in in Hove, and although very sceptical about the idea it worked out very well and resulted in more parking spaces for residents. I can not remember the cost though, but £150 sounds quite high, maybe half of that, not sure.
 
I think a fairer thing would be to tax people more for second cars. Where I live most people seem to get the bus into work but then there buses are every couple of minutes it takes between 20-30 minutes it takes longer to drive as you it takes for ever to park and you get stuck in traffic
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That's all very well, but if there are two of you working in different places that public transport makes inaccessible should we be punished for being productive?
 
I understand that it would be complex to implmement but unless somthing is done soon at least in big cities like Manchester there will be a total standstill the country will just krind to a halt.

I remember when I my area used to fairly tiried, it now looks like a car supermarket, there is cars everywhere.

If two people work in places where they need a car for their job or can't get to by pulbic transport then such a policiy would be unfair. However there is increasingly families which have four cars (one each) and they work in places easy to get to by public transport.

I think people need to be more aware of congestion and the environment, modern cars may be very clean in terms of emissions but they still use crude oil and the world is now in short supppy of this.

I think mabye car tax depending on where you live might be a good idea, for example where I live the public transport system is brilliant so its not essential for most people to have cars, so I think it should be more expensive for places like mine compared to say small village with little public transport.

I also think a discount or at least a standard rate tax for OAPs would be a good idea as a lot of these need cars to be mobile and independant.
 
Indeed. There are two sides to the argument... on my road there's not enough room for parking and there's about one car's worth of space per house. My next door neighbours have two cars and routinely park outside my house meaning I have to park outside someone else's. However, my parents have two cars and it is a necessity for them... When my dad is at work my mum and brother would otherwise be stuck at home, and they have plenty of room for parking.

I don't think taxing second cars in a family is the way to go though. It's not exactly as if the motorist doesn't already bear the brunt of vast amounts of taxation. I think support needs to be reduced to those who over-populate... no benefits beyond a second child, that sort of thing.
 
It seems a bit of a backward way of reducing traffic though :p

I'll try and take a picture of my road later and you will see exactly what I mean its becoming a joke. In the centre of my suburb they are totaly ripping it out and putting car parking spaces on the pavement so hopefully that should make things a bit better where I am.

I have no problems with people who have cars as I realise many people need them, its the people who have them for the sake of it that annoys me especialy if there is no off road parking.

I just don't understand where all these cars have come from its got much worse in the last five years, in other 5 years time it will be total gridlock, the government needs to act now to try and solve these problems.

I am in a favour of city centre congestion charges in the major cities I think park and ride is also a good idea. The problem is gongestion is no longer limited to the city centre.
 
amazingtrade said:
I understand that it would be complex to implmement but unless somthing is done soon at least in big cities like Manchester there will be a total standstill the country will just krind to a halt.
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This is an English Problem, most cities in Scotland are busy during rush hours, but the rest of the time, driving is a pleasure, oh and property is a lot more realistic, I reckon you English folk need to spread out a bit, instead of all trying to live on top of each other.
 
amazingtrade said:
It seems a bit of a backward way of reducing traffic though :p

I'll try and take a picture of my road later and you will see exactly what I mean its becoming a joke. In the centre of my suburb they are totaly ripping it out and putting car parking spaces on the pavement so hopefully that should make things a bit better where I am.

I have no problems with people who have cars as I realise many people need them, its the people who have them for the sake of it that annoys me especialy if there is no off road parking.

I just don't understand where all these cars have come from its got much worse in the last five years, in other 5 years time it will be total gridlock, the government needs to act now to try and solve these problems.

I am in a favour of city centre congestion charges in the major cities I think park and ride is also a good idea. The problem is gongestion is no longer limited to the city centre.
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Don't encourage them with congestion charging, one of the problems with this country is lack of investment in decent regular, far reaching reliable public transport, in fact if conjestion charging is to be brought in it should be levied at only those who live and work within the transport network, London folk who live in the city should pay huge amounts to keep a car, those living in the suburbs and who need transport for work should get tax breaks.
 
analoguekid said:
This is an English Problem, most cities in Scotland are busy during rush hours, but the rest of the time, driving is a pleasure, oh and property is a lot more realistic, I reckon you English folk need to spread out a bit, instead of all trying to live on top of each other.
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Speak for yourself AK... Edinburgh traffic is stupid almost all of the time and property prices are mad.
 
amazingtrade said:
It seems a bit of a backward way of reducing traffic though :p

I'll try and take a picture of my road later and you will see exactly what I mean its becoming a joke. In the centre of my suburb they are totaly ripping it out and putting car parking spaces on the pavement so hopefully that should make things a bit better where I am.
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Yeah - as usual, it'll make things a lot better for the motorist, and worse for blind people and pensioners who need uncluttered pavements. Bloody motorists.

As for limiting the number of kids per household - GOOD CALL. If China can do it, why not everyone else? This stupid notion that everyone should have the automatic right to have as many offspring as they like really does my head in. If it's fair to cull rabbits, foxes, etc, why not limit the virus known as homosapian? Of course, you'd have to ban Catholicism, but it's in the process of dying anyway so it won't take much...

<OTT whingey rants mode OFF>
 
All I wanted to asked was a general question about the what are the going rates for Resident Parking Permit in the rest of the country to see if there is justification to complain to my council. For example, the London Borough of Croydon, is £37 per year for the 1st permit, £55 for the 2nd & £120 per year for the 3rd and final permit. I thought the main motive of this permits are to give priority of the parking spaces for the residents and indirectly control the amount of cars coming into the zone during office hours.

Anyway, I guess all the other issues raised were just as interesting, so feel free to carry on with the debate.
 
Wolfie - if you are moving house get a place big enough for the Quads.

Re the anglification of Edinburgh... its true - I even married one!

Mind you, we shouldn't complain too much, still more Scots head south, someone's got to run the country :D . I have 2 brothers in the London and the South East.
 
I don't think driving is a pleasure at any time these days. The traffic is worse at rush our bust at least in my part of Manchester its always busy there is never a quiet time anymore.

But people still insist on using their cars to go 100 yards to the local shops.

As I said before I have nothing against motorists but I do think many people need to actually stop and think is this jounrey needed? I can walk or the get the bus instead?

The problem is only going to get much worse. Public transport needs improvement, but when we have a government that scraps all light rail projects because its not London I can't see any improvements being made at all.
 

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