Audiosmile acquires ZeroGain

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    RobHolt Moderator

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    If you were a regular visitor to ZeroGain you'll no doubt be surprised to see that the place is under new ownership, so perhaps I could take a few minutes to explain some of the changes that have already been instigated and those that will follow over the next few weeks.

    The biggest change is ownership and administration.
    Naturally, Audiosmile hopes to benefit commercially from the increased product and company exposure associated with a forum presence, and we won't deny that this formed one of the major drivers in the decision to acquire ZeroGain. However both Simon and I are keen to see a once busy forum return to previous form. It can no longer claim to be non-aligned in quite the same way but we both remain committed to encouraging open and uncensored discussion on all topics. This means business as usual for our members - even our Trade members.

    In terms of forum ethos or direction there is no real change - we had already sought to position ZeroGain on the 'science drives the results' side of the argument and that will remain the position, so expect to see lots of testing, investigative articles and guides.

    You will see the new Reference section is now part of the forum and this will be updated regularly. Users are encouraged to submit what they regard as reference material by contacting a forum moderator. The file can then be hosted and the link provided.

    The forum moderators remain unchanged and have kindly agreed to continue, with the exception of Tony L (owner of pfm) who resigned as a moderator two weeks ago on hearing of the plans as he felt it would be a conflict of interest with pfm. The work of current and retiring moderators is very much appreciated.

    Further announcements will follow as there are further changes and enhancements in the pipeline. In the meantime, see you online!

    Simon & Rob
     
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    Andy 831

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    Good Luck chaps I hope you make it a real success
     
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    Markus S Trade

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    Good luck from me as well.
     
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    Sonusthree Coaxial Kid

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    Shouldn't this have waited until April the 1st? :D

    Good luck guys! I'm a big fan of Zerogain and especially the more scientific approach of late.

    I've a couple of questions:

    How do you think that Simon's acquisition will help the forum?

    Rob, do you currently have any professional involvement with Audiosmile?

    Cheers,
    Martin.
     
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    nando nando

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    nice simon, very informative new forum. :)
     
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    Good luck chaps.

    Just so I understand where you're coming from Rob. I'm guessing that many of us regularly visit PFM and what used to be ZG.
    How do you feel the two forums should compliment each other? Are there specific issues/elements that you feel the new AS should deal with or focus upon?
     
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    Good questions Martin.

    It mostly comes down to the effort we can invest into the forum. ZeroGain has always had a warm place in my heart as it was the first UK forum I started posting on, and I'm sad to see it decline of late. Rob and I have discussed many times how to revive ZeroGain, and tried a number of things to do that. Unfortunatly the effort anyone can be expected to invest in their spare time just isn't enough. Making ZeroGain part of AudioSmile provides the incentive needed to really put a lot of work into getting it going again. Do keep checking in, because we will be posting a number of new threads to try and make the place interesting. The forum already has lots of people viewing, but what it really needs is people to contribute their own material, even if it is just basic questions from a beginner.

    Rob currently has no official involvement with AudioSmile and receives no payment for his help. He is a very kind friend who wants to see his favourite hobby, and forum thrive. I suppose helping AudioSmile gives him a portal to do that.
     
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    TonyL Club Krautrock Plinque

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    Wishing Audiosmile and ZG all the best - I really hope folk support Simon and Rob in this as ZG is a great forum, one of the best IMO. I decided to step down as whilst Rob and the rest of the ZG mod team are good friends I felt my presence on a manufacturer sponsored forum could be viewed as a little inappropriate given that I sell trade advertising on my own forum (pfm). I'll still be around as a regular member though.

    Tony.
     
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    Congratulations Rob & Simon - I hope this guarantees the future of the forum. Very best of luck with it, and I'm quite sure you will show all how a manufacturer/trade owned forum ought to be handled.
     
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    well put and it will be super.let us all make it so, :)
     
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    This being the first Audio forum I joined - the old "Groovehandle" days :) I hope to contribute more than I have of late.

    Best of luck!
     
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    RobHolt Moderator

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    Thanks guys.

    Plenty of ideas in the pipeline and we'll make the threads as interactive as possible :)
     
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    flatpopely Trade - AudioFlat

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    Well done, a brave move.

    If there is anything I can do to help, however small you know where to reach me.

    Very best wishes.

    Andrew.
     
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    Joe Petrik Denebian Slime Devil

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    Good luck, dudes.

    Now about that Star Trek room...

    Joe
     
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    Well Done

    Do you think there might be a place for a dedictaed thread on the future of hifi.

    I predict a major increase in the quality of iPod type products from the major and minor manufacturer's. The rise of HD and SSD space means some of the younger generation will make the move to lossless and then start chasing speaker/amp quality (again!).

    I think this product looks amazing. You basically miss out the middle man, i.e. music server, and go straight from source to active speakers. Having Apple behind this (Apple Airplay) will make the non-audiophile generation take notice. I think you can differentiate yourself by embracing this new wave of products rather than ignoring them?

     
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    Best of luck, chaps :)
     
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    All the best for the future guys.

    Gordon
     
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    Ozexpat Prog Lord

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    I have found myself a bit of a 'journeyman' with regard Audio forums. I struggle to find one that holds my complete interest (as some may have noticed). I look forward to seeing the direction that ZeroGain takes.
    You never know, I may bore you lot even more in the future.

    Good luck, guys.
     
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    la toilette Downright stupid

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    Yep good luck. ZG had gone pretty quiet which is a shame as it always seemed a nice place to post, I hope it can be brought back to life a bit :).
     
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    RobHolt Moderator

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    Absolutely - go for it.
     
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