Demagnetising LP's & cd's
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Perhaps we should try demagnetising you. You never know it might create a more pleasant experience.
I really thank those charlatans who peddle nonsense.
I bought over 2 years ago the RL-30 CD /LP demagnetizer and I'm still happy about that purchase.
And of course I was and am still now completely hypnotized by all those words of these charlatans (who I never met), who told be the great things about the RL-30. And of course every time I use the unit I think of all that money that I spent to buy it. Of course it must work otherwise how could I live thinking about that money thrown out of the window. It just cannot be, that I could make a mistake so this unit will always work.
Luckely for the others I don't want to convince anybody to buy such a thing. No, I don't absolutely care what the have, what they think and what they do. I simply keep on smiling as I suppose also the others do.
Great everybody's happy! What can you expect more?
I posted this on another thread on another subject, Titian, but really, it applies to you far more than to the other guy!
"A belief in invisible cats cannot logically be disproved. But it does tell us a good deal about those that hold it"
Keep feeding those cats, Titian.
Chris
Because I'm so happy (since a few days I'm listening to so much music with help of invisible cats) and I feel the necessity to write that.
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Because I'm so happy (since a few days I'm listening to so much music with help of invisible cats) and I feel the necessity to write that.
So you obviously do care about what they have, what they think and what they do, despite posting that you don't.
I sense confusion...
Well Chris
what you believe or think really has no importance at all and repeating it to other people doesn't help much neither makes it more important or true. Maybe to a few creatures in the universe? Maybe
Well Chris
what you believe or think really has no importance at all and repeating it to other people doesn't help much neither makes it more important or true. Maybe to a few creatures in the universe? Maybe
True, Titian, but may i make a suggestion? The next time you are tempted to buy witchcraft-based foo, consider giving the money to the charity of your choice.
That will have just as big an impact on the sound of your system, and someone or something will at least benefit.
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I sense all the usual parties are arriving to join in the feeding frenzy. How dare anyone hear or even think they hear something that you have no experience of - how dare theySo you obviously do care about what they have, what they think and what they do, despite posting that you don't.
I sense confusion...
I have no axe to grind on this one, as I haven't tried it nor do I find much incentive to do so. BUT I have enough intelligence to keep an open mind. There are some strange electrical and electromagnetic properties in nature that we have very little understanding of. Some birds know where magnetic north is, why are they magnetic. Some fish notably sharks detect in some way the electrical energy of other fish and also read it as a form of communication, so why and how.
The reason we can never be sure in this case is because we are dealing with music which is an emotional or energetic experience, we cannot even understand what creates those experiences in us *yet*, so how can we be so sure we understand what stimulates them.
OK somethings are definitely psychosomatic, and I would include Belt stuff in this, but it is only my opinion and I must respect others opinion. The problem with you lot is you respect no one apart from your narrow minded view on reality, and your desire to feed off and elevate yourselves on what you perceive as the stupidity of others.
So you are so open minded you don't find much incentive to try it. Classic.
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I have many more important (in my mind) things to do and try, but you never know one day I may get around to it, especially if I see people who I respect the opinion of (so sadly not you) start to say it works.
Well Richard, there are always people who want to elevate them selves above others.
Nothing new. First they tell people, something like they are not "normal" and then they expect that these people accept a suggestion from them.
Just pathetic.
@Cooky
to be opened minded on something doesn't mean that one must try it.
Everyone has priorities and cannot try everything especially things like a demagnitizer which are known to be unimportant.
PS: oh Richard was faster than me in the response!
I sense all the usual parties are arriving to join in the feeding frenzy. How dare anyone hear or even think they hear something that you have no experience of - how dare they
I have no axe to grind on this one, as I haven't tried it nor do I find much incentive to do so. BUT I have enough intelligence to keep an open mind. There are some strange electrical and electromagnetic properties in nature that we have very little understanding of. Some birds know where magnetic north is, why are they magnetic. Some fish notably sharks detect in some way the electrical energy of other fish and also read it as a form of communication, so why and how.
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Richard,
You are off on a roll again. Before you start pointing out mystical electromagnetic abilities in animals, FFS make sure that they are indeed mysterious!
Let's take the shark's sense of electroreception first:
"Electroreception:
At some point during the evolution of elasmobranchs the lateral line pores around the snout developed a sensitivity to fluctuations of the electrical fields in the sharks habitat. These modified sensory organs are known as the ampullae of Lorenzini. They consist of relatively large bulbous pores filled with a gelatinous substance. Connected to the pores are cylindrical canals in which the gelatinous secretions are stored. At the base of each pore is a sensory nerve which transports the electrical signals (which are collected by sensory cells lining the pore) to the brain. Actively hunting sharks may have as many as 1500 ampullae around their snout and head whilst more sedate species may only have a few hundred. The ampullae also react to a lesser degree to temperature and pressure changes
The ability of sharks and rays to detect weak electrical signals in their surroundings may be one of the greatest factors relating to their survival through the millennia. The organs are sensitive enough for hammerheads and some other sharks to detect the small electrical signals put out by their prey whilst it hides motionless below the sand. In fact the ampullae are so sensitive that they can pick up voltage fluctuations of just 10 millionths of a volt or the equivalent of the electrical gradient of a AA battery with wires put into the sea 1 mile apart. It has been suggested that the widened heads of the hammerhead family may be an adaptation designed to increase the triangulation capabilities of their electroreception.
When sharks are close to prey it appears that their electrical sense takes over from sight or smell. This would explain why sharks which have been chummed to a fishing or shark diving boat will sometimes attack the propellers and other metal objects rather than the bait which has been put in the water in front of them. Photographers (and I can testify to this) may have the unnerving experience of having a shark maul their underwater camera strobes which emit strong electrical fields. Sharks will also respond more aggressively to the erratic electrical signals emitted by a wounded animal. This may explain why shark attack victims are repeatedly bitten whilst rescuers swimming next to them often remain completely unscathed."
Right, now for birds.
"Magnetoception (or magnetoreception) is the ability to detect a magnetic field to perceive direction, altitude or location. This sense plays a role in the navigational abilities of several animal species and has been postulated as a method for animals to develop regional maps.
Magnetoception is most commonly observed in birds, where sensing of the Earth's magnetic field is important to the navigational abilities during migration; it has also been observed in many other animals including fruit flies, honeybees, turtles, bacteria, fungi, lobsters, sharks and stingrays.
In pigeons and other birds, researchers have identified a small heavily innervated region of the upper beak which contains biological magnetite and is believed to be involved in magnetoception.
Evidence has also been found that the light-sensitive molecule cryptochrome in the photoreceptor cells of the eyes is involved in magnetoception.[2] According to one model, cryptochrome when exposed to blue light gets activated and forms a pair of two radicals (molecules with a single unpaired electron) where the spins of the two unpaired electrons are correlated. The surrounding magnetic field affects the kind of this correlation (parallel or anti-parallel), and this in turn affects the length of time cryptochrome stays in its activated state. Activation of cryptochrome may affect the light-sensitivity of retinal neurons, with the overall result that the bird can "see" the magnetic field.[3] Cryptochromes are also essential for the light-dependent ability of the fruit fly Drosophila melanogaster to sense magnetic fields.[4]
It is believed that birds use both the magnetite-based and the radical pair-based approach, "with the radical pair mechanism in the right eye providing directional information and a magnetite-based mechanism in the upper beak providing information on position as component of the 'map'".[1]
There are, however, two types of magnetic sensing mechanisms that have been more thoroughly described. The first is the inductive sensing methods used by sharks, stingrays and chimaeras (cartilaginous fish). These species possess a unique electroreceptive organ known as ampullae of Lorenzini which can detect a slight variation in electric potential. These organs are made up of mucus-filled canals that connect from the skin's pores to small sacs within the animal's flesh that are also filled with mucus. The sensing method of these organs is based on Faraday's law; a time-varying magnetic field moving through a conductor induces electric potential across the ends of the inductor. In this case the conductor is the moving through a magnetic field, and the potential induced depends on the time varying rate of flux through the conductor according to
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These organs detect very small fluctuations in the potential difference between the pore and the base of the electroreceptor sack. An increase in potential results in a decrease in the rate of nerve activity, and a decrease in potential results in an increase in the rate of nerve activity. This is analogous to the behavior of a current carrying conductor; with a fixed channel resistance, an increase in potential would decrease the amount of current detected, and vice verse. These receptors are located along the mouth and nose of sharks and stingrays.
The second known method of magnetic sensing, or magnetoception, is found in a class of bacteria known as magnetotactic bacteria. These bacteria demonstrate a phenomenal behaviorism known as magnetotaxis, in which the bacteria orients itself and migrates in the direction along the Earth's magnetic field lines. The bacteria is made up of magnetosomes, which are individual minerals of magnetite enclosed within the bacteria cells. Each bacteria cell essentially acts as a magnetic dipole. They form in chains where the moments of each magnetosome align in parallel, giving the bacteria its permanent magnet characteristics. These chains are formed symmetrically to preserve the crystalline structure of the cells.[5] These bacteria are said to have permanent magnetic sensitivity."
Just because you know very little about something does not mean others don't, Richard. Going on a forum and citing stuff like that to support arrant foo is disingenuous.
I really do hope that your knowledge of electronics is not as sketchy as your knowledge of most things you spout about here.
Chris
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How very narrow minded of you.
But Richard it's a software treatment! just imagine what clarity and 'window removal' you could be missing...
Well Richard, there are always people who want to elevate them selves above others.
Nothing new. First they tell people, something like they are not "normal" and then they expect that these people accept a suggestion from them.
Just pathetic.
@Cooky
to be opened minded on something doesn't mean that one must try it.
Everyone has priorities and cannot try everything especially things like a demagnitizer which are known to be unimportant.
PS: oh Richard was faster than me in the response!
Ah, Titian,
There is no way I would elevate myself above a grand foo-master such as your good self.
I am just a humble mortal who requires a rational explanation for things.
You, all you have to do is believe! (And spend sufficient money on it, of course. If it's cheap it cannot possibly work). Hallelujah lord, you have seen the light and inconsequential things like cause and effect don't apply to people like you.
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Just waiting for you to prove my point for me and do the work, which your ego has happily obligedI sense all the usual parties are arriving to join in the feeding frenzy. How dare anyone hear or even think they hear something that you have no experience of - how dare they
I have no axe to grind on this one, as I haven't tried it nor do I find much incentive to do so. BUT I have enough intelligence to keep an open mind. There are some strange electrical and electromagnetic properties in nature that we have very little understanding of. Some birds know where magnetic north is, why are they magnetic. Some fish notably sharks detect in some way the electrical energy of other fish and also read it as a form of communication, so why and how.
QUOTE]
Richard,
You are off on a roll again. Before you start pointing out mystical electromagnetic abilities in animals, FFS make sure that they are indeed mysterious!
Let's take the shark's sense of electroreception first:
"Electroreception:
At some point during the evolution of elasmobranchs the lateral line pores around the snout developed a sensitivity to fluctuations of the electrical fields in the sharks habitat. These modified sensory organs are known as the ampullae of Lorenzini. They consist of relatively large bulbous pores filled with a gelatinous substance. Connected to the pores are cylindrical canals in which the gelatinous secretions are stored. At the base of each pore is a sensory nerve which transports the electrical signals (which are collected by sensory cells lining the pore) to the brain. Actively hunting sharks may have as many as 1500 ampullae around their snout and head whilst more sedate species may only have a few hundred. The ampullae also react to a lesser degree to temperature and pressure changes
The ability of sharks and rays to detect weak electrical signals in their surroundings may be one of the greatest factors relating to their survival through the millennia. The organs are sensitive enough for hammerheads and some other sharks to detect the small electrical signals put out by their prey whilst it hides motionless below the sand. In fact the ampullae are so sensitive that they can pick up voltage fluctuations of just 10 millionths of a volt or the equivalent of the electrical gradient of a AA battery with wires put into the sea 1 mile apart. It has been suggested that the widened heads of the hammerhead family may be an adaptation designed to increase the triangulation capabilities of their electroreception.
When sharks are close to prey it appears that their electrical sense takes over from sight or smell. This would explain why sharks which have been chummed to a fishing or shark diving boat will sometimes attack the propellers and other metal objects rather than the bait which has been put in the water in front of them. Photographers (and I can testify to this) may have the unnerving experience of having a shark maul their underwater camera strobes which emit strong electrical fields. Sharks will also respond more aggressively to the erratic electrical signals emitted by a wounded animal. This may explain why shark attack victims are repeatedly bitten whilst rescuers swimming next to them often remain completely unscathed."
Right, now for birds.
"Magnetoception (or magnetoreception) is the ability to detect a magnetic field to perceive direction, altitude or location. This sense plays a role in the navigational abilities of several animal species and has been postulated as a method for animals to develop regional maps.
Magnetoception is most commonly observed in birds, where sensing of the Earth's magnetic field is important to the navigational abilities during migration; it has also been observed in many other animals including fruit flies, honeybees, turtles, bacteria, fungi, lobsters, sharks and stingrays.
In pigeons and other birds, researchers have identified a small heavily innervated region of the upper beak which contains biological magnetite and is believed to be involved in magnetoception.
Evidence has also been found that the light-sensitive molecule cryptochrome in the photoreceptor cells of the eyes is involved in magnetoception.[2] According to one model, cryptochrome when exposed to blue light gets activated and forms a pair of two radicals (molecules with a single unpaired electron) where the spins of the two unpaired electrons are correlated. The surrounding magnetic field affects the kind of this correlation (parallel or anti-parallel), and this in turn affects the length of time cryptochrome stays in its activated state. Activation of cryptochrome may affect the light-sensitivity of retinal neurons, with the overall result that the bird can "see" the magnetic field.[3] Cryptochromes are also essential for the light-dependent ability of the fruit fly Drosophila melanogaster to sense magnetic fields.[4]
It is believed that birds use both the magnetite-based and the radical pair-based approach, "with the radical pair mechanism in the right eye providing directional information and a magnetite-based mechanism in the upper beak providing information on position as component of the 'map'".[1]
There are, however, two types of magnetic sensing mechanisms that have been more thoroughly described. The first is the inductive sensing methods used by sharks, stingrays and chimaeras (cartilaginous fish). These species possess a unique electroreceptive organ known as ampullae of Lorenzini which can detect a slight variation in electric potential. These organs are made up of mucus-filled canals that connect from the skin's pores to small sacs within the animal's flesh that are also filled with mucus. The sensing method of these organs is based on Faraday's law; a time-varying magnetic field moving through a conductor induces electric potential across the ends of the inductor. In this case the conductor is the moving through a magnetic field, and the potential induced depends on the time varying rate of flux through the conductor according to
.
These organs detect very small fluctuations in the potential difference between the pore and the base of the electroreceptor sack. An increase in potential results in a decrease in the rate of nerve activity, and a decrease in potential results in an increase in the rate of nerve activity. This is analogous to the behavior of a current carrying conductor; with a fixed channel resistance, an increase in potential would decrease the amount of current detected, and vice verse. These receptors are located along the mouth and nose of sharks and stingrays.
The second known method of magnetic sensing, or magnetoception, is found in a class of bacteria known as magnetotactic bacteria. These bacteria demonstrate a phenomenal behaviorism known as magnetotaxis, in which the bacteria orients itself and migrates in the direction along the Earth's magnetic field lines. The bacteria is made up of magnetosomes, which are individual minerals of magnetite enclosed within the bacteria cells. Each bacteria cell essentially acts as a magnetic dipole. They form in chains where the moments of each magnetosome align in parallel, giving the bacteria its permanent magnet characteristics. These chains are formed symmetrically to preserve the crystalline structure of the cells.[5] These bacteria are said to have permanent magnetic sensitivity."
Just because you know very little about something does not mean others don't, Richard. Going on a forum and citing stuff like that to support arrant foo is disingenuous.
I really do hope that your knowledge of electronics is not as sketchy as your knowledge of most things you spout about here.
Chris
Now we need someone to write a similar report as to why records and CD react to being demagnetised (if they do). Your lovely looooong treatise for us would have been laughed at by the likes of you probably only 30 years ago, and that is why we should all keep an open mind.
Well you seem to believe also!
I don't know about which light and which lord you're talking about. Are you rational?
Very impressed about your rationality! You must be a great psychologist.
It's really incredible:
A nobody writes a post to say that he has a demagnetizer since years and he's still happy about his purchase and then all this....
It seems to be the biggest problem to some people.
unbelievable!
A nobody writes a post to say that he has a demagnetizer since years and he's still happy about his purchase and then all this....
It seems to be the biggest problem to some people.
unbelievable!
Well you seem to believe also!
I don't know about which light and which lord you're talking about. Are you rational?
Very impressed about your rationality! You must be a great psychologist.
Psychologist, Titian? You shouldn't use words you don't understand, mate.
And the light/lord was an allusion to your blind faith and gullibility.
I'm away for my dinner. See you tomorrow.
Chris
Very rational for a person "who requires a rational explanation for things".
Well everybody believes in something...
I'm certainly not going to let be say what I should or shouldn't do from somebody like you.
Have a nice dinner and evening!
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