Just waiting for you to prove my point for me and do the work, which your ego has happily obliged
Now we need someone to write a similar report as to why records and CD react to being demagnetised (if they do). Your lovely looooong treatise for us would have been laughed at by the likes of you probably only 30 years ago, and that is why we should all keep an open mind.
You still don't get it, do you Richard.
Both phenomena described in my post have explanations in scientific principles that are a century and a half old. Not 30 years, more like 150 years.
Farady's law FFS!
And Richard, at any time in my adult lifetime, had someone come to me and suggested that pigeons could navigate by reading the earth's magnetic field and that sharks could detect prey by sensing their electric fields, I would have asked for the hypothesis behind the assertions. And you are right, if no one could put forward a reasonable hypothesis to explain the phenomena, I would have filed them under "tentative".
But as soon as evidence of magnetite in pigeons beaks was presented, the hypothesis is promoted to plausible.
You know, Richard, for someone who works in a technical field, you have a suprisingly poor grasp of how science and technology works.
I take it I am correct in assuming that your degree is in a technically based subject?
Chris
Similarly, the explanation for your mystical abilities is well understood. read any psychology 101 text if you are interested.
Demagnetising LP's & cd's
- Thread starter Operama
- Start date
Oh yes Richard, tell us about your degrees. It is very important Richard, please!
- Joined
- Jul 5, 2006
- Messages
- 1,198
- Reaction score
- 0
I don't have one, I got thrown out of Uni while studying to be an architect. Too much long hair, sex, drugs and rock and roll I am afraid. Anyway my history has been posted here in the distant past if anyone wants to search the archive under my posts.
well maybe they did before arguing with you...
- Joined
- Jul 5, 2006
- Messages
- 1,198
- Reaction score
- 0
You are bonkers!!!
It is like wishfull thinking going on. I came on this thread to say I don't think that records or cd's can be demagnetised, but as it was the usual rabid dogs gathering for the kill on titian I posted saying people should keep an open mind.
Yet once again reality is being re-written by you lot.
So you think it is bollocks after all-well done!-as a bloke keen to protect the consumer from shitehawk salesmen/sharp practice, your position sounded rather odd..
- Joined
- Jul 5, 2006
- Messages
- 1,198
- Reaction score
- 0
All you need to do is read the posts, but rabid dogs intent on a hunt tend not to bother.
Plus you are still wrong, it *may* be down to a large slice of slurping and marketing bullshit, but if that is the case you shouldn't be so selective as slurping and marketing bullshit dominates the industry from top to bottom. Everyone is trying to convince you, or take away the opportunities for others to convince you. It has been a shite industry and some of the industry icons have been the worst offenders like Linn and Naim. A bloody kite shaped piece of metal for thousands of pounds - do me a favour
that is an F sight worse than this silly little idea as there are still the hoodwinked and brainwashed hundreds of minions out there who will believe it. So call a spade a spade but don't be so selective.I am here for one purpose - to point to the changes we can now make in the industry and to tell people to keep open minds and *above all* trust your ears. AND if Titian has trusted his ears and I presume genuinly thinks that this malarky is good, then good for him - let him, it is his freedom and choice. If he is deluded then others will not hear it and it will die as a silly little cul-de-sac of thought and idea that this industry has been full of - in fact in some ways it has largely been part of the fun.
I just happen to think the most important thing is a persons music and his freedom of choice to hear the best way to reproduce it - a very simple process that really does not require the services of packs of rabid dogs.
RobHolt
Moderator
- Joined
- Oct 23, 2004
- Messages
- 4,126
- Reaction score
- 12
Nobody has behaved in that way towards him on this thread.
Some have disagreed strongly with his view and they can do that, in unison if they wish because that just illustrates where the majority view happens to be, at this time and on this question.
It is perfectly acceptable to suggest that someone is mistaken, plain wrong or deluded if that is truly their view of the poster and his argument.
Anything that defies logic, known understanding or even just 'smells funny' deserves to be challenged - hard.
- Joined
- Jul 5, 2006
- Messages
- 1,198
- Reaction score
- 0
Then you don't see what I see, and as gamekeeper turned poacher you were one of the milder ones who participated in this. It is *always* the same people, and they pollute here, Wigwam, PFM and anywhere they can and at every opportunity. You know perfectly well this is not just disagreeing with a view, it is rude, personal and insulting attacks, always from a position of assumed superiority, no wonder so few people want to de-lurk and post.
And I think your (group) behavior towards them needs to be challenged - hard!
sq225917
Exposer of Foo
- Joined
- Jan 11, 2007
- Messages
- 1,514
- Reaction score
- 0
Seems to me that the majority view on this forum is objectivist, evidence based. Should people choose to post subjectivist viewpoints, particularly those views supported by nothing more than fanciful marketing speak then they can rightly expect to be questioned.
Just like I'd expect to be told to STFU, or told that my viewpoint was inconsistent with the widely held forum view if I posted on your site, or the AOS forum claiming that measurement was .the one true way'...
There's no metal in vinyl, it can't be magentized, so it can't be demagnetized, so either the OP is deluding himself or some other mechanism is at play. Several of the 'pack' suggested that it might be an de-static effect that he was hearing.
Just like I'd expect to be told to STFU, or told that my viewpoint was inconsistent with the widely held forum view if I posted on your site, or the AOS forum claiming that measurement was .the one true way'...
There's no metal in vinyl, it can't be magentized, so it can't be demagnetized, so either the OP is deluding himself or some other mechanism is at play. Several of the 'pack' suggested that it might be an de-static effect that he was hearing.
Batty
Registered Insane
I used to use that, some of my LPs still have the little sticker on and still seem to attract less dust.
Talk about the kettle calling the pot black! Richard, you are beyond doubt the rudest, most insulting poster on this or any other audio forum.
And people who disagree with your wackier precepts are allowed to say so, preferably with their reasons for their disagreement.
Chris
All you need to do is read the posts, but rabid dogs intent on a hunt tend not to bother.
Plus you are still wrong, it *may* be down to a large slice of slurping and marketing bullshit, but if that is the case you shouldn't be so selective as slurping and marketing bullshit dominates the industry from top to bottom. Everyone is trying to convince you, or take away the opportunities for others to convince you. It has been a shite industry and some of the industry icons have been the worst offenders like Linn and Naim. A bloody kite shaped piece of metal for thousands of pounds - do me a favour
I am here for one purpose - to point to the changes we can now make in the industry and to tell people to keep open minds and *above all* trust your ears. AND if Titian has trusted his ears and I presume genuinly thinks that this malarky is good, then good for him - let him, it is his freedom and choice. If he is deluded then others will not hear it and it will die as a silly little cul-de-sac of thought and idea that this industry has been full of - in fact in some ways it has largely been part of the fun.
I just happen to think the most important thing is a persons music and his freedom of choice to hear the best way to reproduce it - a very simple process that really does not require the services of packs of rabid dogs.
The fact that Salisbury/Glasgow totally stuffed you in the market really rankles still, does it not?
Your kit was in the same league as theirs back in the day. But you couldn't market it effectively, and JV & IT were consumate marketeers. So they drove you out of the market.
That's what successful companies do in any field.
Chris
Ok, next time I want a building designed I'll get an electronics engineering drop-out to do it.
.I was actually kicked out of university at the end of my 2nd year (it was the 60's & quite honestly, I was one of the "long hair, sex, drugs and rock and roll" dudes you allude to.)
About 10 years later, when I finally came down, I returned , and got a physics degree. And in the '90s I took a maths degree through the OU.
Chris
- Joined
- Nov 1, 2005
- Messages
- 449
- Reaction score
- 0
I totally agree with you on this subject. When these posters call us deluded and imaging things it is defamatory to our state of mind. I really think these people are deranged and have had some trauma in their lives that seriously needs attention.
So basically someone sells you 'magic' for a not inconsiderable sum and anyone who questions the wisdom of such a purchase is deranged?
I can see the dealers rubbing their hands every time you enter the shop.
- Joined
- Aug 17, 2009
- Messages
- 155
- Reaction score
- 0
I'll give this a test .. First Let me try to pick up a CD with a magnet ..
Nope .. Nope ... Nope .. Nope ...
Now some vinyl .. um Nope
Now Let me try a block of wood ... Nope ...
I must be deluded then.
Nope .. Nope ... Nope .. Nope ...
Now some vinyl .. um Nope
Now Let me try a block of wood ... Nope ...
I must be deluded then.
