HIFICRITIC Petition

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If this petition gets enough support I'll compile and email it to HIFICRITIC. If it doesn't I won't bother. Thirty or more signatures would be a rough target.

Please read this:

If you agree with the petition statement then post ââ'¬Å"I support this petitionââ'¬Â. This is sufficient to register your support.

If you don't agree with the petition statement, for whatever reason, then please ignore this thread. The arguments have been well and truly aired, they don't need airing again.


From about HIFICRITIC
We've called this magazine HIFICRITIC, because that's precisely what it's intended to be.

Although British hi-fi journalists have built a fine reputation for high quality critical assessment of hi-fi equipment, current reviews seem to have become increasingly 'soft' and lacking in serious critical insight.

Our intention is to scrutinise internationally important equipment in depth and detail, technically and subjectively, and to provide comprehensive investigations into the key issues and developments that are facing hi-fi today.

Paul Messenger, Editor
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Petition Statement

We the undersigned recognise the editorial aim of HIFICRITIC to distance itself from mainstream hi-fi journalism by being a genuinely unfettered critical voice and by offering to the reader serious critical insight, review and investigation.

We ask HIFICRITIC to use scientific method to investigate the stubbornly contentious issue of cable sound. Such method involving listening tests. If HIFICRITIC considers present methods to be of insufficient resolving ability, for whatever reason, we ask HIFICRITIC to endeavour to find method it does consider will deliver meaningful results and can be practicably employed.
 
count me in.....

are you suggesting they don't or wont ?

theres nothing in the text to suggest either way ...but I'd have thought

"to provide comprehensive investigations"

was a pretty good catch all .....
 
Sorry I must be missing the point. Why would a commercial magazine give a toss what we think? also, this is clearly a not very subtle way of getting free advertising on a mission statement that will probably mean F all when they realise they can't pay the bills.

Rod
 
Why the hell would you suddenly start believing anything this lot say. It's the same old faces that have been around since time immaterial.

What's changed? Are they suddenly saying that after all these years, they've seen the light, and have now, in their dotage, been miraculously relieved of all the hidden agenders, that have plagued them for most of their careers.

Nah!!! :rolleyes:
 
zanash wrote:
count me in.....

are you suggesting they don't or wont ?
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If the stated aim of HifFi Critic is to be a more credible and critical alternative to the populist ââ'¬Å"softââ'¬Â mainstream, they should at least be open to the idea of objective, rather than subjective, journalism. It's worth asking in this way I think zanash, provided there is interest to do so.


rodrat wrote:
this is clearly a not very subtle way of getting free advertising on a mission statement
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I don't have any connection with the magazine.
 
The only thing I wonder is if it will make any difference to anyone? I doubt Zanash will change his opinion on cables based on any findings they make and I also will not start buying special cables if they say that they make an audible difference, because I know that for me they don't. It probably also wont stop manufactures spouting bollox science.
 
Tenson said:
The only thing I wonder is if it will make any difference to anyone? I doubt Zanash will change his opinion on cables based on any findings they make and I also will not start buying special cables if they say that they make an audible difference, because I know that for me they don't. It probably also wont stop manufactures spouting bollox science.
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It's a good point.

But, well, if they come to the conclusion that cables make no difference, it will save some people coming to the same conclusion the expensive way.

And if they come to the conclusion that certain things do make a difference, then sceptical types like myself might be tempted to try those certain things and might end up enjoying an improvement.
 
owl37400 said:
It's a good point.

But, well, if they come to the conclusion that cables make no difference, it will save some people coming to the same conclusion the expensive way.

And if they come to the conclusion that certain things do make a difference, then sceptical types like myself might be tempted to try those certain things and might end up enjoying an improvement.
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Why on earth do you need their opinion, on anything. They're only journalists writing about Hi-Fi, to make a living. If it wasn't Hi-Fi, it'd be something else, like 'What Curry' or 'What Girl Friend'. Presumably you've got a pair of ears. Go to your local friendly dealer and borrow whatever you think might make your life more fulfilling, be it cables, widgets, or whatever. Listen yourself, and form a view as to whether they make any difference to you, or not.

Sorry for going off on one, but only you can be the arbiter of where your interest lies, not some self styled 'expert'.
 
I see the usual arguments are being trotted out. :(

Newsflash for you Arrowhead. I'd like to know if there is something more than psychology to cable sound before entertaining the idea of listening to any. I don't do healing crystals either for the self same reason. Perhaps you do? You should take yourself down to your local friendly new-age crystal shop and try some.
 
mosfet said:
I see the usual arguments are being trotted out. :(
'Newsflash for you Arrowhead. I'd like to know if there is something more than psychology to cable sound before entertaining the idea of listening to any'.


Perhaps you would, but they,as sure as hell, won't tell you.

You are obviously a naysayer, fair enough, so why don't you prove yourself right by borrowing a handful of cables, and do it. Much better than paying good money for some wretched tome, that ulimately will be afraid to upset any of their mates. IMHO.
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