P4 How hot?

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I've just installed a P4 E3.0 ghz H/T FSB800 1MB Cache 0.09 um.

Question: How hot do these run with stock cooler?

Just spent the night u/g comp proc MB 2x SATA, 9800 pro now running Duall ddr, B@stard to set up Sata drives, but this things fast, a litle concerned with temps around 70 C!

Ta

AK
 
analoguekid said:
a litle concerned with temps around 70 C!
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That's too hot. Get yourself a proper cooler! You want to bring that down to around 45 at idle and still under 55 at full number-crunching load.
 
Way too hot, I'd say 50 - 55 max, where are you getting the temps from, the BIOS or something like MBM ?
 
Its a prescott P4, it will run bloody hot however you cool it :( unless you go mental and get a vapochill!

However 70 is rather warm, I'd be looking at keeping it under 60-65 myself...what case cooling do you have? The standard Intel retail heatsink should be up to the task, but if you don't have any intake/exahust fans then the warm air doesn't have anywhere else to go, it just warms up the case and thus the processor as well.
 
Yes I have heard a lot about the P4 Prescott having heat problems, the coolers they provide just don't do the job, but then at the temps these things run at you might want to consider water cooling! Send it back and get an AMD64!
Think Intel really dropped the ball on this one, I would normally buy Intel over the others, but they've not managed to bring out a 64 bit chip, they're overpriced and now their chips have problems. They need to sort themselves out quickly
 
Cheers guys, temp actually hovering below 60 was a problem with MB bios not reporting correctly, it is the prescott, went with intel this time as went with the AMD XP2000 last time (after allways having intel) and so wanted intel again they really are superior. And my case cooling is pretty good , two 80 in one back one top out, plus 2 on PS (although am waiting on antec truepower which should help), although have been running case w/out sides at mo whle fiddleing.

Have been having a coupla probs with this one, keeps going into CHCKDSK at startup, both drives, the drives are not raid config,(BTW) new drivers for audigy etc still same probs, any ideas
 
Oh god! Lhatkins is going to be helping me (read doing, I reckon, 'cos I'll be too much of a wuss!) build my new PC tomorrow; it's an AMD 64 Newcastle 3000+, with 1 gig of RAM and SATA HDD.

I was going to go with Intel, but he reckoned they'd a) run too hot and b) be too noisy (am building a music composing PC). I just hope that Nexus Breeze case is as quiet as it claims to be...

70 degrees though - that's effing boiling!!!! Let us know how you get on...
 
domfjbrown said:
Oh god! Lhatkins is going to be helping me (read doing, I reckon, 'cos I'll be too much of a wuss!) build my new PC tomorrow; it's an AMD 64 Newcastle 3000+, with 1 gig of RAM and SATA HDD.

I was going to go with Intel, but he reckoned they'd a) run too hot and b) be too noisy (am building a music composing PC). I just hope that Nexus Breeze case is as quiet as it claims to be...

70 degrees though - that's effing boiling!!!! Let us know how you get on...
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Building PC's is a piece of piss, I've done 3 now, all AMD's :)

Oh and BTW you missed off c) Cost
 
Sgt Rock said:
Building PC's is a piece of piss, I've done 3 now, all AMD's :)

Oh and BTW you missed off c) Cost
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It is if you can see :) Lhatkins has loads of experience even though he has similar eyesight (slightly worse) than me, hence why I'm pussying out!

BTW - Analogkid - you should put that CPU to use, like this guy: Frying time!!
 
Now temps around 50 c really was a bios glitch have used MBM for years, along with MO LCD, been building PC's for years, this one has caused me a coupla probs 'sall, still checkin' KB with regard to CHKdsk starting on each drive at reboot, will get it eventually, but it's just buggin' me at the mo.

Any ideas?

Cheers

AK
 
Yes Sgt Rock building a pc is a easy if your fully sighted, try doing it with your eye's closed, litterally, but still its not hard, it just takes a bit of time and patience, can be a little tricky getting the Mb stands in the right place, but after that the thing that takes the time is getting the switches and LED cables in the right place, why can't they make a "standard" multi plug thing for this is beyond me, takes ages to get this right.

Ya Dom wanted a quiet system, so having 3 tornado grade fans in the case just to keep a overheating P4 cool wasn't going to be the plan, AMD's run cooler than P4 (especially the prescott) so as this was dom's requirement I suggested the AMD64, plenty of power in that to run his apps. If he wanted something completely silent I would have gone for the XP3000+ with a Zalman cooler, (basicly passive cooling), but as these chips are being phased out I though the AMD64 was the way forward, has a longer life than the current P4. C'on Intel where is your 64bit chip??? hum..... enough said.
 
Yes, a nice cool and quiet AMD with plenty of bang for you buck sure is the way to go.
Plenty of fans about that may both shift more air and be quieter than stock models, something to look forward to if you feel the need.

These people worship the God of cool and quiet while still managing to fit so much into such small boxes.
 
P4's are safe at that tempreture but not for long periods. if its new then the is the slight chance it could be faulty hardware. but best worth getting a good HSF and thermal pastes .
 
My mates P4 Prescott 3GHz also seems to run about the temps you are saying (with the stock cooler). He hasnt had any problems so far, though.
 
Thanks for the help, BTW I'm no stranger to modding etc, my xp200 used to run at about 50c but that was with huge noisy cooler, earlier p4 seemed to run at 30-40c, any way was just unsure as to what was normal for these, so next question, what's the best type of fan around then, a quiet one >30db at full tilt?
 
Just put together Dom's new pc, its extremely quiet, and a mere 39c at idle. in fact the motherboard turned the cpu fan OFF because it didn't it needed it (I quickly turned that option off though, far too dodgy). Am well impressed with the speed and quietness of this computer, can't wait to build my own, only let down by a shoddy OS that couldn't see the SATA hard drive but a bit of googling around solved that problem.
 
analoguekid said:
Thanks for the help, BTW I'm no stranger to modding etc, my xp200 used to run at about 50c but that was with huge noisy cooler, earlier p4 seemed to run at 30-40c, any way was just unsure as to what was normal for these, so next question, what's the best type of fan around then, a quiet one >30db at full tilt?
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I got some YS-Tech silent fans from www.overclockers.co.uk and they are pretty quiet, but obviously the quieter the fan, the less effective its cooling.

I've got an Athlon 2600+ which runs about 60 idle and about 70-75 at full load after a significant time. Its never caused any problems with stability and the chip is designed to run at up to 85, and I have a feeling my motherboard (like many others) misreports the temps anyway.
 
That was quite gnarly, seeing a CPU fan stop... We were using it, got this 'orrible high-pitched whine, and opened the case f***ing quick. Ah - no chip fan. Urm, err. OH, that'll be the fan-stopped alarm. Err, oh, actually, that fan's SUPPOSED to have stopped. Blimey - that's, err, pretty cool :)

Yeah, the PC's niiiiice. Except for one thing - it takes AEONS to boot - it gets past the black XP starting screen, then sits there for ages on the first blue XP screen before getting to the "Welcome" one. Any ideas?

I've asked LHatkins (via email today) whether a total reinstall would be best (we "repaired" my old install after taking an image from my old PC's HDD) - I guess this would help?

Also, we ran Ad Aware - ooops! I had 230+ trojans/spyware items!!! Sheesh!!!

One more thing - the "soft" power button - why does it just turn the PC off, rather than forcing a shutdown first? By the same token, the shutdown option from the Start menu comes up with the "It is now safe to turn your PC off" message, rather than powering down. Odd...

I DO have SP2 on there - but that worked OK on the old PC's power switch etc...

Cheers Lhatkins - nice work dude! Just got to get the PC past its Farleys Rusk teething stage now :)

It IS quiet though - even at 3 in the morning, it's only a low-level noise. The CDRW's about 4 times louder than the entire rest of the PC when a disc is running!!!!
 

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