Why are some MC carts so bloody expensive??

LinearMan said:
True enough. But it's still a load of hassle and suppose they don't refund your money, or say that it's been returned in a not as new condition (I have some extensive experience in this area!), etc? Sure, you can sue, but what a pain.

It's much easier and more pleasurable to use a dealer. And you can easily compare and contrast. It would take an awful long while and extensive hassle factor to do that by the route you're proposing. OK, if you don't want to use a dealer to (apparently) save a few quid, then don't. But no moaning that dems are not possible;)

Richard's post does bring a smile to the lips. He seems to be moaning that retailers mark up by 100% (always be careful not to confuse mark up with margin), yet he freely admits to using a 128% mark up himself!

What nonsense, are you a retailer? I was complaining about no-one. I was replying to a post asking why things were so expensive and explaining the system that is the status quo that explained it.

Dinosaurs always try to hang on to their place in the sun for as long as possible, human nature.

Regarding my mark up there is no comparison. How much work is involved in manufacturer compared with something sitting on a shelf in a box and talking to customers and showing it to them. Like comparing making wine with selling lemonade. What about all the design work with no direct return, what about all the production planning, what about all your component stocks. Different fettle of kish :D Anyway the price quoted was to retail i.e. buy it now, if there is an auction it is 25% down on that.

Richard
 
OK, it appears this thread has decided to focus on mark-ups, which while no doubt a large factor in final price, doesn't explain the BASIS for the "factory gate" cost of these devices. I want to learn more about the amount of labour involved, how they source components, cost of materials & machinery. How long it takes to design a new cart, test it, the failure rate. Time spent listening & tweaking the design (this must take ages).

This is before we get to the juicy mark-ups applied at retail/distributor level. Clearly there is potential (seeing as this is such a low-volume enterprise at this price level) for high costs. I don't bemoan this. I simply want to know what generates these costs!

I do have the Hi-Fi+ VdH interview tucked away somewhere. Might be worth reading again to see how he goes about his business.....

DT

Tones, I agree that Daniels is considered the "Godfather" of modern horology. There is no shortage of extremely talented folk lined up to claim his crown though - Dr. Ludwig Oeschlin, Michael Parmigiani, Vianni Halter, F.P. Journe, Phillipe Dufour, R.G. Smith, Paul Gerber, Richard Mille.....
 
hi guys, as a dealer i always get distributers to lend me dem stock so i could lend them out to potential buyrs, however, if goods are damaged by couriers that's no problem as they are insured the problem arises if the goods get damaged by the client, if so the responsibilty has to be theirs therefore they should pay for the goods,as far as home dems i am all for it.regards nando
 
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Originally Posted by DennyL
I am interested to see that that watch 'belongs to 'the illustrious category of Grandes Complications'. I actually have a few candidates for inclusion in that category.
There's no official definition as to what constitutes a "grande complication", but this is probably on the money:

http://www.europastar.com/europastar...h/nicolet7.jsp

My God! I didn't realise the phrase 'grandes complications' had so much meaning!
 
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