Flatty's turntable bake off...

Richard Dunn said:
Anyway I listened to one and that was enough, I chose the current favourite #5
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How facile, you only listened to one and then you just chose the most popular! Rather goes against your claim of being an individual 'I chose the current favourite'.

With regard to 'not bothering', please don't - please don't bother yourself at all.
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People were free to play whatever records they had brought with them (and they did).

No doubt, had you been there, you would have chosen some Bert Kaempfert (I know you are a fan).

 
YNMOAN said:
How facile, you only listened to one and then you just chose the most popular! Rather goes against your claim of being an individual 'I chose the current favourite'.

With regard to 'not bothering', please don't - please don't bother yourself at all.
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People were free to play whatever records they had brought with them (and they did).

No doubt, had you been there, you would have chosen some Bert Kaempfert (I know you are a fan).
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I am a fan of the recording quality not the music, as I have said over and over and over and over and over and over again on other forums. But as long as you have found an angle to diss from what does that matter.
 
Bert Kaempfert my arse, that's michael bloody Schumacher the sneaky moonlighting twat.
 
Richard Dunn said:
Over produced, artificial and contrived.
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quite agree.

my suzanne vega albums such as 'days of open hand' show themselves up on very transparent systems with that 80's over-produced sound.

Not a great test track or album by any stretch.
 
one of the bes recordings we made at island was cat stevens hits, the other still being used to set up stage live sound for biasing and sound checks is " breckfast in america "
nando.
 
yeah cat stevens albums sound great.

my favourites are jazz albums from the 50's bluenote and things like that. Sound fabulous, the music is top aswell.

Got Cannonball Adderley spinning now.
 
Richard Dunn said:
I am a fan of the recording quality not the music, as I have said over and over and over and over and over and over again on other forums. But as long as you have found an angle to diss from what does that matter.
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Liking Bert Kaempfert is nothing to be ashamed of - the sound or the music.
I dislike music fascists!

After your Bake I bought these :)


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nando said:
one of the bes recordings we made at island was cat stevens hits, the other still being used to set up stage live sound for biasing and sound checks is " breckfast in america "
nando.
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Nando for once I completely agree with you, all Cat Stevens Island albums are brilliant recordings, maybe just a little tad to much lift in the hf EQ on his voice, but that is all I can criticise.

Also recently I have been listening to early Donovan recording, mmmm big kissy kissy. So naively simple and just, nice!
 
Richard Dunn said:
<snip> maybe just a little tad to much lift in the hf EQ on his voice, but that is all I can criticise.
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Many a good recording is ruined by too much HF vocal EQ and reverb.
Lots of hi-fi buffs seem to like it but its horrible IMO - sort of swishy and fizzy artificial grain added to the voice. Gets mistaken for air and detail, which it isn't.

The tendency to do this (and other horrors) seems to get worse with every passing year.
 
RobHolt said:
Many a good recording is ruined by too much HF vocal EQ and reverb.
Lots of hi-fi buffs seem to like it but its horrible IMO - sort of swishy and fizzy artificial grain added to the voice. Gets mistaken for air and detail, which it isn't.

The tendency to do this (and other horrors) seems to get worse with every passing year.
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That is the problem with producers and recording engineers, give them a new toy and they want to play with it :mad: bloody EQ is the death of music. Early analogue ones could be gross but the new digital ones are plain weird to my ears.
 
I think EQ is fine in the hands of an engineer with good ears, and no bean counter shouting the odds saying 'make it sound OTT impressive'.

If the engineer is comparing the recorded performance to the live sound and using the latter as his reference, you stand a good chance of a great result.
 
RobHolt said:
I think EQ is fine in the hands of an engineer with good ears, and no bean counter shouting the odds saying 'make it sound OTT impressive'.

If the engineer is comparing the recorded performance to the live sound and using the latter as his reference, you stand a good chance of a great result.
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Far too much EQ is used live on the PA as well. EQ is very important on the foldback desk, but the main desk engineer should have as light a hand as possible.
 
Guys, enough is enough. This argument between you 2 should stay between the pair of you, certainly not on ZG. I've deleted some posts, now let's get back on topic please.
 
If I can add to Dev's point.

If accusations are to be made accusing any member of deceit or lying, the poster had better have some solid, hard evidence to support the accusations.
Hard evidence means just that, so no opinion, no third party reports and tell-tale stories - facts that can be proven, quickly.
 
RobHolt said:
If I can add to Dev's point.

If accusations are to be made accusing any member of deceit or lying, the poster had better have some solid, hard evidence to support the accusations.
Hard evidence means just that, so no opinion, no third party reports and tell-tale stories - facts that can be proven, quickly.
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I understand this. I hope everyone else does.
 
I never say anything unless I can back it up, and I know the libel law. I had plenty of experience of it suing Hi-Fi Choice in the late 90's.
 

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