scalford hall hifi show 2011

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So, what have I learnt on this thread?

(1) There might be a Chester Group sponsored show at Scalford Hall next year.
(2) There might not.
(3) James from Wigwam is maintaining a dignified silence on the matter rather than spewing diatribes of ill-informed nonsense that do no-one any favours at all
(4) There would have been no Scalford Hall show last year had it not been for the truly exceptional, kind, much-adored and heroic human being that is Richard Dunn.
(5) Said Mr. Dunn will be running a show that looks to be suspiciously similar in format later in the year. It will be brilliant, and instantly cause all other hi-fi shows to cease trying.
(6) The hi-fi trade are all evil, lying scum (except the aforementioned Mr. Dunn, naturally)

Have I missed anything?

:rolleyes:
 
Garrardman said:
So, what have I learnt on this thread?

(1) There might be a Chester Group sponsored show at Scalford Hall next year.
(2) There might not.
(3) James from Wigwam is maintaining a dignified silence on the matter rather than spewing diatribes of ill-informed nonsense that do no-one any favours at all
(4) There would have been no Scalford Hall show last year had it not been for the truly exceptional, kind, much-adored and heroic human being that is Richard Dunn.
(5) Said Mr. Dunn will be running a show that looks to be suspiciously similar in format later in the year. It will be brilliant, and instantly cause all other hi-fi shows to cease trying.
(6) The hi-fi trade are all evil, lying scum (except the aforementioned Mr. Dunn, naturally)

Have I missed anything?

:rolleyes:
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Richard Dunn, despite being the chief designer, MD, marketing director, chief bottlewasher of NVA is in no way a Trade Member, and will be exhibiting at Scalford purely for the fun of it.

Yeah, Right!

Chris
 
Garrardman said:
So, what have I learnt on this thread?

(1) There might be a Chester Group sponsored show at Scalford Hall next year.
(2) There might not.
(3) James from Wigwam is maintaining a dignified silence on the matter rather than spewing diatribes of ill-informed nonsense that do no-one any favours at all
(4) There would have been no Scalford Hall show last year had it not been for the truly exceptional, kind, much-adored and heroic human being that is Richard Dunn.
(5) Said Mr. Dunn will be running a show that looks to be suspiciously similar in format later in the year. It will be brilliant, and instantly cause all other hi-fi shows to cease trying.
(6) The hi-fi trade are all evil, lying scum (except the aforementioned Mr. Dunn, naturally)

Have I missed anything?

:rolleyes:
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Complete bollocks! answering your points.
(1) They have told me now on three occassions that they aren't and they say they have informed James of that fact.
(2) Unless they change their minds there isn't going to be.
(3) James is just laying confusion over the whole matter by refusing to talk about it, even with his own forum members. So there is bound to be comment elswhere.
(4) There would have been a show without me but without me Chester Group would have pulled out this year, as it is because it was only me and a reluctant pittance coughed up by Flatty there still was not enough to justify continuing it.
(5) I am not running a show, a committee of forum members is running a show at a Hotel on the Waltham Abbey M25 junction on the last Sunday in October. All I did is book the hotel and stand guarantee on the costs - no more than that. It is not a similar format it is more like a domestic Bake-Off where people bring equipment to bake off against others in specialised rooms. Only 5 of them 1 Computer Audio 2 Amplifiers 3 Speakers 4 TT and sundries 5 Cables and mains do-dahs. So how you can say it is the same format as Scalford which was individuals demonstrating their systems is just plain bonkers.
(6) Not all the industry are evil lying scum, just a large percentage of them, who have been feeding off you for years. The manufacturers were forced into this position by the way the industry was run, to the point if you have a system bought new that has cost you £10,000 then well less than £5000 of that has gone to the manufacturer the rest has gone to the hanger on slurpers as in distributors, retailers, magazines and reviewers, and if imported then over another £2000 to the distributor. Now we have an opportunity to do it differently and just pay the £5000 to the manufacture and have money for a good holiday or better system, if you are happy with that original situation then more fool you.
 
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Mescalito said:
Richard Dunn, despite being the chief designer, MD, marketing director, chief bottlewasher of NVA is in no way a Trade Member, and will be exhibiting at Scalford purely for the fun of it.

Yeah, Right!

Chris
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Yup! believe it or not that is quite correct. I design for fun, I build for fun, I exhibit for fun, if someone buys them then fine, then I make more, if they don't I just listen to them myself and make my money from my other business.
 
Mescalito said:
Yeah, right!

Chris
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Test me - promise me you will never be my customer or ever buy anything from me please! I would appreciate it.

My customers are my friends, not because they bought nva, some have sold on their nva for other equipment and thay are still my friends, a perfect case to point is Gromit, he is now an Exposure man, but he is still my mate and we talk regularly and I sometimes take gear around to use his ears.

Because I speak my mind and I am an arch subjectivist I have alienated a group of people on the forums including you, who look for any opportunity to jump in and diss me - that is fine with my personality I should expect it. BUT if I was just in this for the money and sales and being the marketing man I would be crawling all over your arse to get you back listening to and wanting nva.
 
Richard, you do seem to be a rather unpleasant kind of guy, who is taking far too much interest in the affairs of others. Far too much gloating, which to be honest, feels a bit pathetic.

You come across as very vindictive, spiteful, etc etc etc. I dont see any redeeming qualities shining through. Nothing but "bad" stuff.

You raised your point ages ago, that the show may not go ahead. why the need to keep putting in your nasty little bit all the time. Leave it now. What is to be gained, except a boost to your ego/self esteem.

You seem to be one of those who gets through life by means of conflict. you seem to relish it. Everytime I see or hear your name it is in a negative light. Do you really feel that everyone else is wrong and that you are right.

There is another way!!!! Be nice to people and they may be nice back. Have you ever sought out or received help. There are people out there who can get you through what is obviously a difficult time for you. Please consider it. It could enhance your life and lead to happiness. You surely cant be happy at the moment.

I am sure that there are many in the various forums who would be happy to chip in a little financially to help ( money be be one of your worries, who knows)
This is a win /win situation. Hi Fi folks wouldnt have to read your drivel periodically, and you may find inner peace.

I have an old Kaftan that you can borrow if you get into it and find a great need to visit Tibet for a few months quiet meditation.

OM
 
Dom_ said:
Yes as said I was only quashing the conspiracy theory that the moderators/admin where trying to remove all previous talk of the show.
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Is that a yes that the show is going ahead without Chester Group, as your answer is ambiguous (sorry for my stupidity selecting the wrong word).
 
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take5 said:
Richard, you do seem to be a rather unpleasant kind of guy, who is taking far too much interest in the affairs of others. Far too much gloating, which to be honest, feels a bit pathetic.

You come across as very vindictive, spiteful, etc etc etc. I dont see any redeeming qualities shining through. Nothing but "bad" stuff.

You raised your point ages ago, that the show may not go ahead. why the need to keep putting in your nasty little bit all the time. Leave it now. What is to be gained, except a boost to your ego/self esteem.

You seem to be one of those who gets through life by means of conflict. you seem to relish it. Everytime I see or hear your name it is in a negative light. Do you really feel that everyone else is wrong and that you are right.

There is another way!!!! Be nice to people and they may be nice back. Have you ever sought out or received help. There are people out there who can get you through what is obviously a difficult time for you. Please consider it. It could enhance your life and lead to happiness. You surely cant be happy at the moment.

I am sure that there are many in the various forums who would be happy to chip in a little financially to help ( money be be one of your worries, who knows)
This is a win /win situation. Hi Fi folks wouldnt have to read your drivel periodically, and you may find inner peace.

I have an old Kaftan that you can borrow if you get into it and find a great need to visit Tibet for a few months quiet meditation.

OM
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I just reply to other peoples posts, you can interpret that how you like.

MODS :- another example of letting a thread go personal (ad hominem) and how it always ends up in conflict.
 
Dom_ said:
Yes as said I was only quashing the conspiracy theory that the moderators/admin where trying to remove all previous talk of the show.
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Richard Dunn said:
Is that a yes that the show is going ahead without Chester Group, as your answer is ubiquitous.
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Are you hard of reading? :confused:

Also, I don't think "ubiquitous" was the word you were looking for, as it means 'everywhere, all around' etc.

Possibly you were looking for 'ambiguous'? Which the answer certainly wasn't.
 
Richard as you're so keen for transparency wrt hifi margins, please could you give us a cost breakdown for say a P50 passive preamp please...
 
Wammer64 said:
Richard as you're so keen for transparency wrt hifi margins, please could you give us a cost breakdown for say a P50 passive preamp please...
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With pleasure.

Case and silk screening £35
Potentiometer £2-50
Selector switch £1 (approx)
Sockets about £10
Connection about £2-50
Knobs £2
Packaging £12
Labour £30
Total £95

Manufacturers profit margin £95, times two of costs - selling price £190.

If that was retailed the selling retail price would be at least £350.

If you go to http://www.klang-projekt.de/nva_ex-preis.htm you will see that in 1999 when we went through retail and foriegn distributors the price for a P50 was £350. My case now costs me less and so does my potentiometer and cabling so my price would still be about the same if I retailed.

So how many manufacturers can you quote whos prices are now about 45% less than they were in 1999.
 
zanash said:
well don't hold your breath as its not going to happen ....chesterfield group arn't making enough money from I guess ?

seems wigwamers are being kept in the dark ...can't think why

Its seems a great pity as it was very well attended in 2010 and a lot of people had gone to a great deal of effort too .....

maybe if we make enough noise ...this event might happen ?
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There was nothing to discuss until today. Strange that you managed to "know" all of the above before I did. I only finished discussing it all with Chester about an hour ago.

Equally, you are wrong on every count. And no one was being kept in the dark, there was nothing to say until now.

Good job people don't use the internet to cause arguments and rumours in order to avenge petty squabbles.:eek:
 
Garrardman said:
So, what have I learnt on this thread?

(1) There might be a Chester Group sponsored show at Scalford Hall next year.
(2) There might not.
(3) James from Wigwam is maintaining a dignified silence on the matter rather than spewing diatribes of ill-informed nonsense that do no-one any favours at all
(4) There would have been no Scalford Hall show last year had it not been for the truly exceptional, kind, much-adored and heroic human being that is Richard Dunn.
(5) Said Mr. Dunn will be running a show that looks to be suspiciously similar in format later in the year. It will be brilliant, and instantly cause all other hi-fi shows to cease trying.
(6) The hi-fi trade are all evil, lying scum (except the aforementioned Mr. Dunn, naturally)

Have I missed anything?

:rolleyes:
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HAhHAHAHAHHA!

Superb!
 
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